Talk:Brazo de Oro (wrestler)
Latest comment: 7 years ago by InedibleHulk in topic Wrong birth year
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Wrong birth year
editI don't know how reliable La Opinion can be with the sort of math it presents. If he was born in 1950 and debuted at 16, he'd have debuted in 1966 or 1967, not 1975. What likely happened here was that obit sources checked Wikipedia, which itself claimed 1959 in the lead from 2008 till 2015, when this happened.
As for the infobox, User:MPJ-DK changed it in 2009, so only he knows whether this was a typo or something based on a source. Seeing as he also used a 9 instead of a 10 for the month, I'm leaning toward typo.
I think we should use WrestlingData's more plausible date, as we did for the first seven years. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:07, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- If WrestlingData isn't enough, El Norte also goes with October 7, 1959, in its death notice. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:20, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- Contramuro gives both 1959 and 66 years, which makes even less sense than La Opinion does. El Mundo de Tehuacan gets the math right. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:31, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- Hm, I got plenty that says 1950
- MedioTiempo
- El Universal
- Excelsior
- ESPN
- Publimetro newspaper
- But there are a few things that look odd with that - like you said sources have clearly stated "debut at age 16" and a debut year of 1975. Also he is not that much older than El Brazo (born 1961) and Brazo de Oro (born 1963), definitely not 8-10 years. I don't want this to turn into an edit war, not you/me - but other editors coming with a 1950 source vs. a 1959 source. MPJ-DK 12:17, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- If you'd explain how you came up with the 1950 date eight years ago, we could either point the 1959 editors to the source you used or tell the 1950 side their reliable source merely relayed a mistake. Should be good enough to shut down any war. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:00, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- Oh if I could remember why I did stuff 8 days ago let alone 8 years ago we'd be great. So looking at it, since i only changed one year, not the one in the text I honestly think it was a typo on my part. I wonder if all the "he was 66 years old" obituaries looked at the info box at Wikipedia (not even the text, it was different for 8 years). I think this may just show the power of Wikipedia and why it should not be treated as a reliable source. MPJ-DK 15:05, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- All's well that ends well. At least Wikipedia's capable of quickly fixing mistakes. I bet most news sources will never bother. The Los Angeles Times still insists something called WebProNews said Matt Borne was fired by WWF in 1996. I tried three times to explain how Ray Apollo is another Doink, and got nothing but an added "WebProNews said", which made it twice as untrue as it already was. Thanks for owning up instead of doubling down. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:08, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- I totally own that mistake, I am just blown away that it stuck around for 8 years AND made the news. MPJ-DK 00:50, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- That doesn't surprise me much. Reporters don't have the time they had when "papers" were daily, and it's way easier to Google someone than getting someone on the phone. Citogenesis is running wild, brother! What shocked me was learning Brazo de Oro doesn't have a page on Spanish Wikipedia, but Brazo de Plata and El Brazo do. Also a bit weird that you were still around to fix it, right on time. Anyway, keep up the good lucha work! InedibleHulk (talk) 05:50, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- I totally own that mistake, I am just blown away that it stuck around for 8 years AND made the news. MPJ-DK 00:50, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- All's well that ends well. At least Wikipedia's capable of quickly fixing mistakes. I bet most news sources will never bother. The Los Angeles Times still insists something called WebProNews said Matt Borne was fired by WWF in 1996. I tried three times to explain how Ray Apollo is another Doink, and got nothing but an added "WebProNews said", which made it twice as untrue as it already was. Thanks for owning up instead of doubling down. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:08, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- Oh if I could remember why I did stuff 8 days ago let alone 8 years ago we'd be great. So looking at it, since i only changed one year, not the one in the text I honestly think it was a typo on my part. I wonder if all the "he was 66 years old" obituaries looked at the info box at Wikipedia (not even the text, it was different for 8 years). I think this may just show the power of Wikipedia and why it should not be treated as a reliable source. MPJ-DK 15:05, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- If you'd explain how you came up with the 1950 date eight years ago, we could either point the 1959 editors to the source you used or tell the 1950 side their reliable source merely relayed a mistake. Should be good enough to shut down any war. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:00, 29 April 2017 (UTC)