Talk:Branimir Glavaš

Neutrality

This Wikipedia entry is far tendicious. It should be marked as controverse and

revisited. I have cleaned the extreme parts out. Please take care to formulate
moderate and politically correct texts.
The above comments show, that the author is emotionally tied to the case and
is not objectively commenting and writing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.172.201.60 (talk • contribs) 16:07, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm reverting the article to the previous version since the changes you made weren't discussed here on the talk page, and in the process of making the changes, you've introduced lots of spelling, punctuation and grammar mistakes. You're also not registered as a user, whereas the other authors are. I'll leave the neutrality flag on though, so it can be debated. It seems OK to me though. I don't think there's any evidence to suggest that the comments above were made by the article author, since they're unsigned. Cordless Larry 19:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello Larry! I will register and be back again then to discuss the changes.
As a Croat, I cannot confirm the article as-is, although I agree in many
parts. I hope through a discussion we can agree on some of the changes I
proposed, since IMHO the article is not neutral and also in some cases sounds
a bit radical. I am surely not a Glavas supporter, but since this should be
an encyclopedia it has only to deal with facts and not political qualifications.
And you are simply wrong in mentioning that he founded a party. If you are
interested in - I would also be open to meet somewhere on IRC to discuss those
issues live.
Regards! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.131.247.229 (talk • contribs) 00:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, sounds good. I didn't say that he founded a party though - I didn't write the article, only edited it a bit. Cordless Larry 07:31, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Since no one has suggested any changes to this article, I'll remove the neutrality tag in a few days, unless anyone objects. Cordless Larry 13:06, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

See also here. Cordless Larry 15:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I've replaced the neutrality tag with {{unreferenced|article}}. Help with finding references would be appreciated. Cordless Larry 22:01, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Mistake

I have taken out reference to a brother involved in 1972 uprising. The so called brother mentioned in this article was my father who died in that incident. As far as I know I didn't have another uncle! Rose :) --RosieBG 08:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

"Self-declared Ustasha"

I've removed this claim which was purportedly backed by two references. The YouTube clip, however, does not back the claim at all, while the second referenced source is of questionable reliability. If Glavaš ever publicly declared himself as Ustasha - and I contend he never did - than it should be fairly easy to determine where, when and how. That said, his extremism is otherwise well known and generally not in question; it's all about finding a way to correctly present it here. GregorB (talk) 11:51, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Go to this link and look at 1:17. Glavaš clearly says "Slobodno recite da ste Ustaše, i jeste!" (Feel free to call yourselves Ustashe, because you are that!). How would you explain that? --Cinéma C 23:27, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

He apparently feels that whoever is an Ustasha should be free to declare himself as such. That's different than declaring himself to be an Ustasha, and it is not really a minor difference either. (BTW: did he ever use a Nazi salute? If he did, that would be a point of note.) GregorB (talk) 12:46, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough... but does it make any sense to call your men Ustashe while you, the leader, do not declare yourself as one? --Cinéma C 19:42, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Frankly, given the circumstances, I'd say no, it doesn't make sense, but ultimately that would be for the reader to decide. In fact, this incident is significant enough to be described in the article. GregorB (talk) 20:34, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

OK, would you be so kind as to adding that fact in the article? Since you removed the reference before :) --Cinéma C 22:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'd like to, but I can't promise. BTW, I tried to find this event covered by a reliable source, but I couldn't, except for this article, which misrepresents it completely. Do you know exactly (i.e. backed up by WP:RS): 1) where and when did this happen, 2) who filmed it, 3) who are the people he's talking to? GregorB (talk) 23:11, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

It is a piece of footage from a prisoner exchange where Glavas was waiting to welcome the Croatian prisoners who were released. It appeared on a Belgrade program of investiative journalism that aired on Sunday nights in the early 1990s. --Cinéma C 22:20, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism

I just removed tremendous ammount of vandalism. Something should be done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AurgelmirCro (talk • contribs) 12:06, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Lead section

Per the lead section guidelines, the article lead should act "both as an introduction to the article, and as a summary of the important aspects of the subject of the article". As present, the lead section of ths article doesn't do this. User:Aradic-es also objects to the mention of Glavaš's conviction in the lead, not considering it an important aspect of the article (see discussion here and here). I propose that the lead section be expanded to summarise the article in a few sentences, including the conviction. Your thoughts are welcome. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:41, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to be this blunt, but given the extensive media coverage of wartime events in Osijek related to Glavaš, his indictment, arrest, hunger strike, release from jail, guilty verdict and finally his escape to Bosnia, the idea that all this is somehow "not important" is ludicrous. GregorB (talk) 20:20, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

My point exactly. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:41, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

The intro is inadequate, should be expanded. No objections posted here thus far. GregorB (talk) 17:24, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

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