Talk:Bohren & der Club of Gore

Article/band name

If anyone's watching this article, what do we think of renaming it to "Bohren und der Club of Gore"? I think it better illustrates the bi-lingual nature of the artists name. -Lemike 13:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Because the band most always uses an ampersand in official media, this would be somewhat misleading. However, I recall the article used to at least address the pronunciation. It was removed likely to appear neater, but should be reintroduced as the article matures. Pixel Eater (talk) 11:41, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Genre

When I first heard about this band people I know referred to it as "Doom Jazz" - I see it's called Noir Jazz here (which is a better name for it in my opinion). If anyone ever starts an article for the genre/style, I know about a couple of other examples of it. I know David Lynch got some similar jazz (Doom Jazz/Noir Jazz - whichever) on a soundtrack (possibly Twin Peaks). Another example is Courtney Pine's work on the soundtrack of the 1987 neo-noir film Angel Heart. The Angel Heart soundtrack is actually so close to Bohren's style that it may have been their primary source of inspiration (only my guessing). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.165.154.223 (talk) 00:51, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the jazz subgenre 'noir jazz', Bohren & der Club of Gore's albums offer a fairly robust examples of it. One must at this time look to sources outside of Wikipedia for information on this, but at the time of writing this Google returns 56,700 results for the exact phrase. Please do not delete it again from this article unless you intend to first legitimately contest its application, not existence, to this band. It seems Sunset Mission is the most forthright demonstration of the band's interest in noir jazz, where other albums especially more recent are so dominated by a jazz/ambient presentation it isn't as consequential. With the general rule being that genre order signifies relevance, I am promoting it to first on Sunset Mission and third elsewhere as appropriate. Please let's work out thoughts or concerns here rather than through abrupt editing wars. Pixel Eater (talk) 11:58, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

"Jazz noir" is an American term describing music that evolved from "noir" movies commencing just before WW2. It is a term which is meaningless outside of the US. Dark jazz or Doom jazz are terms used across the world. I recommend that Wikipedia stop trying to "Americanise" international culture - we are talking about a German band here. 182.239.152.166 (talk) 08:49, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

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