Talk:Blue & Grey (song)

GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 10:08, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

You have not nominated a GAN for a while, therefore I believe you're deserving of a review for this one already! --K. Peake 10:08, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Kyle Peake, wow that was fast. Thank you for taking up this review. Happy to address the comments as always. :) --Ashleyyoursmile! 10:36, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Infobox looks good!
• "is a song performed by" → "is a song by"
• "intended to be a part of" → "intended to be included on"
• "it was released on" → "the song was released on"
• "the third track on Be." → "the third track on the album." since Be has only been referenced once up to this point
• Wikilink pop ballad per MOS:LINK2SECT
• "pandemic-induced malaise" is not sourced in the body, only pandemic-induced loneliness
• "also picked it as a" → "picked the song as a"
• "Commercially, "Blue & Grey" became a," → "Commercially, the song became a,"
• "and at number 9 on the" → "and number 9 on the"
• "It entered the charts" → "It further entered the charts"
• The number of countries listed in the above sentence is too much and reads like a supermarket list; instead, mention the number of them outside of the US it charted in and write "including Hungary and South Korea" afterwards or something similar that pinpoints two countries it charted highly in

 Done all

Background and release

• Img looks good, apart from the wikilink on BTS
• Remove target on Be
• Why are the producers ordered differently hear than in the lead?

• thanks for noticing, I've switched the order --Ashleyyoursmile! 18:33, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

• Good move! --K. Peake 19:04, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

• Remove wikilinks on drums, guitar and piano
• Target backing vocals to Backing vocalist
• "was originally slated" → "was initially slated" to avoid using "originally" early on in two consecutive sentences
• The first teaser part is not mentioned by the source

• Double-checked. It is backed up. --Ashleyyoursmile! 18:33, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

• My bad for missing it. --K. Peake 19:04, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

• "at the latter's studio where" → "at the latter's studio, where"
• "together. "Blue & Grey" was" → "together; "Blue & Grey" was" since the two sentences need merging because they are too short currently
• Change the last sentence to ""Blue & Grey" was released on November 20, 2020 as the third track on Be." or something similar, as it is delving into too much detail that the song was released for digital download and streaming as part of the album

 Done

Music and lyrics

• Add the Stereogum ref to the audio sample text since that backs up the soft part plus wikilink pop ballad per MOS:LINK2SECT
• "The lyrics address themes of" → "The lyrics address themes that include"
• ""Blue & Grey" is a" → "Musically, "Blue & Grey" is a"
• Wikilink pop ballad
• "four minutes and fourteen seconds." → "four minutes and 14 seconds."
• "in key of" → "in the key of" with the target
• "of minor chords" → "of minor chords," with the target
• [17] should be directly before [21]
• "contains "spoken-worded" and" → "contains "spoken-word" and" with the target
• Remove wikilink on rapping
• ""breathy", "crooning", and" → ""breathy," "crooning," and"
• Where are the malaise and unease parts sourced?

• removed, and re-phrased per source. --Ashleyyoursmile! 18:33, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

• "which he handles in" → "which he delivers in" though [18] should also be invoked around here since it backs up info from the first sentence
• "throughout the entire track," → "throughout the track,"
• Target pop to Pop music
• "used to create" → "noting them being used to create"
• Where is it sourced that they remind the listener?

• The NME ref. backs it up. --Ashleyyoursmile! 18:33, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

 Done all

Critical reception

• "received generally positive reviews" → "was met with generally positive reviews"
• "In Los Angeles Times, August Brown named "Blue & Grey"" → "In the Los Angeles Times, August Brown named it"
• Wikilink emo
• "Jochan Embley of Evening Standard" → "Jochan Embley of the Evening Standard"
• "crushingly vulnerable" writing that" → "crushingly vulnerable," writing that"
• "in the album," → "on Be" because it has been too long since you last wrote the title
• "details" of the track and opined that it" → "details," and opined that it"
• "vocal delivery which he" → "vocal delivery, which he"
• "called the song "the" → "called it "the"
• "off of Be" complimenting" → "off of Be," complimenting"
• "on a ballad" acknowledging" → "on a ballad," acknowledging"
• ""crushing" praising BTS'" → ""crushing" while praising BTS'"
• ""touching" that" → ""touching" and said that it"

 Done

Commercial performance

• Remove Spotify info per WP:CHARTS and also remove the second sentence since that will be irrelevant afterwards
• Shouldn't South Korea come first because it is BTS' native country?

• I'm keeping this ordering so that US and Canada chartings are mentioned together, followed by Europe, and then Asia. --Ashleyyoursmile! 18:33, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

• Yeah I suppose that works here. --K. Peake 19:04, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

• "sold over 69,000 units," → "sold over 69,000 units in the United States,"
• "on both the" → "on both the US"
• "and the World Digital Song Sales." → "and World Digital Song Sales charts."
• "while ranking number 5" → "while ranking at number 5"
• "to enter the chart following" → "to enter the chart, following"
• "and at number 24" → "and number 24"
• "attained top-five positions" → "attained top five positions"
• "On the Billboard Global 200 which" → "On the Billboard Global 200, which"
• "excluding the US." → "with the exclusion of the US."

 Done all

Credits and personnel

• Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between credits and personnel
• Songwriting should always be followed by production for consistency
• Shouldn't Levi come directly after Hiss Noise since he handled production?

 Done

Charts

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION

 Done

References

• Top job on the archives here!!
• Copyvio score looks solid at 22.5%!
• WP:OVERLINK of Billboard Japan on ref 45
• Solely cite Recording Industry Association of Malaysia as publisher for ref 46
• Recording Industry Association (Singapore) → Recording Industry Association Singapore on ref 47
• Fix MOS:CAPS issues with ref 52

 Done

External links

• Good

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed, but it is fresh to take one of your articles on again and this is a good effort! --K. Peake 17:23, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

• Kyle Peake, mostly addressed all issues. Could you check and tell me if I missed out any? Thanks. Ashleyyoursmile! 18:33, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

• Ashleyyoursmile I left responses for a few points; you only now need to remove "also" from the lead's critical reception and wikilink pop ballad on the sample text. --K. Peake 19:04, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

• Kyle Peake, and done. Good to go? Ashleyyoursmile! 19:11, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

• Ashleyyoursmile ✓ Pass now, looks like your timely responses have been consistent despite taking a break from nominating articles! --K. Peake 19:42, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

  Kyle Peake, thank you for the review. :) Ashleyyoursmile! 19:48, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 11:07, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

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BTS member V for Dispatch White Day Special

• ... that BTS' song "Blue & Grey" was originally intended to be included on band member V's (pictured) solo mixtape? Source: [1]
  • ALT1:... that BTS' song "Blue & Grey" uses the colors blue and grey to illustrate depression and anxiety? Source: [2][3][4]

• Reviewed: NASCAR at COTA

Improved to Good Article status by Ashleyyoursmile (talk). Self-nominated at 20:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Good to go. Ergo Sum 06:14, 20 January 2021 (UTC)