Talk:Blood & Water (South African TV series)

Requested move 24 May 2020

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The result of the move request was: Pages moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 16:30, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

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• Blood & Water (TV series) → Blood & Water (South African TV series)
• Blood and Water (TV series) → Blood and Water (Canadian TV series)

– As per this discussion at NCTV, it is likely that the "&" vs. "and" is insufficient to differentiate these two TV series as per WP:SMALLDETAILS, and so as per WP:NCTV they need additional "by country" disambiguation to differentiate them. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:21, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support per nom. This is a clear case where not specifying anything else gives no indication to the reader (or even to other editors) what article they are getting. --Gonnym (talk) 16:43, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support. Although I'm the original creator of the Canadian show's article, I did so at a time (2015) when the South African show (which just premiered this year) did not exist yet — however, obviously circumstances have now changed, and the title is now incomplete disambiguation, but "&" vs. "and" is not sufficient distinction either. Bearcat (talk) 19:39, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 20:52, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nom, 100%. Paintspot Infez (talk) 21:35, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Raymie (t • c) 06:00, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support, per nom, and for clarity. AshMusique (talk) 23:09, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nom. As I pointed out in the WT:NCTV discussion - sources and even official YouTube channels sometimes mix up "and"/"&". -- Netoholic @ 09:34, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Aoba47 (talk) 22:48, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
• Neutral From my point of view, both the current and proposed titles are not fully suitable for the subject. Note that Netflix is not in any form, a 'TV Channel'. Hence Blood & Water ( web series ) would be a better suited title. Leaderofthewave. (talk) 15:26, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Use of "(web series)" is almost universally restricted to short-form content, and would be incorrect here. The 30- and 60-minute shows that air on streamers like Netflix are fully "TV series" in every sense of the word. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:35, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

IJBall is correct, full-length series on OTT platforms like Netflix or Hulu are still considered TV series, with "web series" being restricted to short-form programs. If you still don't understand why, consider a show like The Good Place: linear network show in North America, Netflix-exclusive "web" show everywhere else. Or The Handmaid's Tale: Hulu in the US, linear run on CTV Drama Channel in Canada because we don't have Hulu here. IOW, a full-length series can be both linear and OTT at the same time in different places, depending solely on who happens to hold the broadcast rights in any particular market. The human race may need to rethink our terminology about this in the future, but the method of distribution isn't currently the standard distinction between a "TV series" and a "web series" — it's a question of length and format, not a question of whether you personally watched it on NBC or Netflix. Bearcat (talk) 15:44, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support: The "and" and "&" do not make a significant difference, per WP:SMALLDETAILS. — YoungForever^(talk) 23:59, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support. As for the "&" and "and": an article name should be as titled by the series itself. Pyxis Solitary (yak). L not Q. 09:38, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

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