Talk:Beryl May Dent

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Gricharduk in topic Original research
Good articleBeryl May Dent has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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Reviewer: Hawkeye7 (talk · contribs) 04:33, 19 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Picking up this one. Review to follow. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:33, 19 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Good spot Hawkeye7. I have linked those terms in the lede section. Gricharduk (talk) 06:10, 19 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "was the first to develop a reduced major axis" What with the bolding?
Hawkeye7 I have removed the bolding. Gricharduk (talk) 06:10, 19 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
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The above is not enough to hold up passing the article. Strongly recommend sending it to FAC.

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Original research

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'She never married, believing that getting married, and the subsequent pressures of family responsibilities, would be a "wastage" of a woman's training. However, she also believed that women leaving employment to get married would mean promotion opportunities for other women, and that married women would still be able to return to work in mid-life.[1]'

First, the cited text by Dent just says that there is high turnover of girls 'owing to wastage due to marriage and family responsibilities', but that word doesn't mean 'waste' of training or anything else, it's just an established term for 'turnover of personnel' (Wiktionary). Second, this is a text in which Dent advertises work for girls in laboratories, and she simply concedes that the applicant might resign at some point, before arguing that it is nevertheless a good idea to apply. She doesn't say anything there about her own reasons for not marrying. Linking the two things seems like a speculation, or an original synthesis, which a biographer might do but an encyclopedia editor shouldn't. 87.126.21.225 (talk) 00:02, 10 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your very thorough analysis and thoughts - I agree with you on the OR. I have attempted to resolve this by moving the text on Opportunities in the Metropolitan‑Vickers Electrical Company's Research Department for Girls of Good Scientific Education to the Selected publications section and removed the text that linked this to her thoughts on marriage. Gricharduk (talk) 05:09, 12 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
  1. ^ Dent 1957, p. 12.