Talk:Bernard Gray (Sunday Pictorial journalist)

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The result was: promoted by Hilst talk 18:57, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that war correspondent Bernard Gray was killed while travelling as an unofficial passenger aboard a Royal Navy submarine during the Second World War?

• Source: "He was revealed as the only unofficial passenger to sail on a British submarine in the second world war, and the only journalist to die in one. He was killed with 43 other men when enemy aircraft bombed the submarine HMS Urge on her way from Malta to Egypt in May 1942." from: Ezard, John (15 November 2003). "'Piratical' reporter's death on second world war submarine confirmed". The Guardian.

• ALT1: ... that during the 1940 German invasion of Belgium Bernard Gray reported from Brussels alongside Kim Philby, later revealed to be a Soviet spy? Source: "Bernard Gray of London's Sunday Pictorial managed to get into Brussels on May 15 with Harold 'Kim' Philby of The Times, who would years later be revealed to have been a Soviet agent since 1934." from: Moseley, Ray (21 February 2017). Reporting War: How Foreign Correspondents Risked Capture, Torture and Death to Cover World War II. Yale University Press. p. 7. ISBN 978-0-300-22634-8.
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Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 909 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 23:07, 16 November 2024 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
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QPQ: Done.

Overall: New enough and long enough. Hook facts are interesting; I prefer ALT0. Earwig shows 23%, which is explained by the attributed quote and the name of the museum. QPQ is done. Everything looks good.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:41, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Can someone provide biographical information on Bernard Gray please?

What was his date of birth? Where was he born? Who were his parents? Did he have any siblings? Where did he get his education? When did he get married, and what was his wife's name? What were the names of his children? What did he do professionally before he "became a journalist for the Sunday Pictorial during the 1930s?" Can someone provide this information without committing the mortal sin of "original research" please? 01:11, 29 December 2024 (UTC) 2603:800C:3A00:59B5:6DD3:63C8:297B:FDA2 (talk) 01:11, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

He is known to the Commonwealth War Graves Commission as "Reporter BERNARD GRAY, War Correspondent", listed on the Plymouth Naval Memorial to those who died at sea and have no known grave, but intriguingly his death is registered as 13 May 1942, later than the 27 April accepted as the date HMS Urge was lost. His only family details state he was husband of "D. Gray, of Hazel Grove and Bramall, Cheshire". I wonder if he was mentioned in the local newspapers of that area, south of Manchester near Stockport?Cloptonson (talk) 07:21, 29 December 2024 (UTC)