Talk:Berengaria of Castile/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: Calvin999 (talk · contribs) 21:53, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

General

• One link needs dabbing

removed link, as that author was not one of the options

Info box

• Shouldn't Conrad be listed as a spouse?

done

• If hers and Alfonso's marriage was dissolved, shouldn't marriage and dissolution dates be added?

done

Lead

• There shouldn't really be any citations in the lead, as the lead is an overview of the entire article.

done, leaving just the note

• The lead is quite short. I reckon two paragraphs of three lines would be more informative, as there is quite a lot of info. Some things need a bit of explanation, like why she handed the throne to her son.

I've given this a shot, though lead writing is not my best area. Further recommendations are welcome.

Early family life

• Include her date of birth and her birth place (with the sources from the lead)

done

• of another royal Berengaria → of Berengaria of Barcelona (as her husband was the regnant, I feel like his name should be mentioned first.

done

• "and another important woman of the age" → This doesn't sound neutral

removed

• Her nurse, Estefanía → comma needed after her name

done

• "from the royal parents" → from Alfonso and Eleanor

done

• "Those who cared for the young infanta were generously rewarded. Her nurse, Estefanía received land from the royal parents on her retirement in May of 1181." → Is this sourced from citation 7?

yes, so I duplicated the citation

• This section can be one paragraph.

done

Marriage and children

• "As the eldest child of the king and queen," → As the eldest surviving child of King Alfonso and Eleanor,

fixed, though I left off the 'surviving' as she was in fact the eldest

• "Because her siblings" → Don't start sentences with "because"

fixed

• "early infancy or shortly after birth," → This should be round the other way, as birth comes before early infancy.

done

• "Conrad would only be allowed to co-rule as her spouse, and Castile would not become part of the Empire." → Where is the sourced for this? There could be citations at the end of every sentence throughout the article.

fixed this particular example. I'm unsure as to how much I should duplicate the citations like this throughout the article, but I will do so if you recommend.

You mean using one source multiple times? Where it says <ref>, you can rename it as (for example) <ref name="example"> (with the quotation marks) and if you want to use the source again elsewhere in the article, you literally just put <ref name="example"/> at the end of the sentence (with the / included in it). Have look at List of songs recorded by Arianan Grande and click edit and have a look through on the coding so you can what it I mean. Hope this helps.  — ₳aron 11:54, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

I have now fixed it so that every sentence in the article has a citation.

• The marriage was not consummated, due to Berengaria's young age. → How old was she and how old was he?

estimated her age, but without a clear birthdate, it's hard to be too specific

• "objected the marriage" → objected to the marriage

oops, fixed

Between Queenships

• Though she had left her role as queen of León, she retained authority over and taxing rights in many of the lands she had received there, including Salamanca and Castroverde, which she gave to her son Ferdinand in 1206. Some of the nobles who had served her as queen followed her back to the court in Castille. The peace which had prevailed since her marriage was lost, and there was war again between León and Castille, in part over her control of these lands. → Where is the source for this?

This was all wrapped up in the citation after the next bit, but I went ahead and broke it out (which I should have done originally)

Regency

• Alfonso VIII → Who is this and what is her relation to him? Is there a linked article for him?

subject's father, clarified in text (his link is further up the page)

• Henry's mother assumed regency → Who is Henry's mother?

now named, her link is further up the page

• In 1216 an → Comma after 1216

done

• No need to have a red link to a non-existent article.

done

• On 15 August 1216 an → Comma after 1216

done

Queen of Castile

• loose accidentally while → I don't think "accidentally" is needed here, and it doesn't make the sentence flow.

done

Royal advisor

• This section could easily be three paragraphs instead of lots of short sentences.

done

• I think it should be renamed "Royal advisor and later life" considering you say she dies in this section.

deferred as I'm moving that per recommendation below, but let me know if you still think this applies

• long as the ruling queen → for long as queen regnant

done

• was always at her son's side as an → continued to be her son's

done

• Even well into her son's reign, → Remove "Even"

done

• "In this way" → By doing so, she

I tried another phrase than what you suggested, see what you think

• Berengaria behaved like an actual queen while her son Ferdinand was in the south, on his long campaigns of the Reconquista. → This doesn't sound neutral.

clarified

• assuring him that she had his back well covered. → This is far too colloquial.

fixed

Patronage and legacy

• I think I would actually include her death here, and when she saw her son for a final time

done

Outcome

Placing on hold for 7 days. I have 2,300 articles on my watch list so ping me when you're ready.  — ₳aron

Calvin999, I've responded to all of your suggestions above, though there are a few where I have indicated I would appreciate further input from you. If you have any issue or further suggestions, please let me know. I really appreciate your thorough review. 1bandsaw (talk) 22:58, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Calvin999, I've fixed it so that each sentence has a citation as you suggest. Please let me know if you think there is anything further needed. Thanks again for all your help on this! 1bandsaw (talk) 18:56, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Everything looks good. Well done. Passing :)  — ₳aron 19:01, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

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