Talk:Benevolent suicide
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The contents of the Benevolent suicide page were merged into Altruistic suicide on 5 June 2018 and it now redirects there. For the contribution history and old versions of the merged article please see its history. |
Example
editAnother example reference for this concept could be the Church of Euthanasia, which espouses population control for environmental reasons? Not sure how relevant it is. DLeonard 04:39, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Population
editI looked up the numbers for the land area of Texas and the total estimated Human population of Earth. The entire Human population would fit in Texas with almost 2,000 square feet per person. Then I looked up the total land area of Earth, found three slightly different numbers so I took the average and divided by 2,000. The number? Approximately 81 billion 2,000 square foot parcels. Science fiction stories that cover entire planets with a multi-level building have mostly grossly under-shot the number of people required to have them packed into closet sized apartments, especially when the story has all the food imported from other planets. Even a trillion people would rattle around loosely in a planet totally covered with a 5 level building. Just something to think of every time you read anything claiming Earth is "overpopulated". It's only a few of the largest cities that are a bit packed up with people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bizzybody (talk • contribs) 06:10, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Irrelevent, the issue of overpopulation is not where people have to stand, it is the amount of resources they consume, their needed footprint of land to support them in food, water, energy, and so on.75.177.47.137 (talk) 04:40, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Here is how it works.
1. People eat food, about 2000 calories a day worth or more if you are a Westerner. 2. It requires 9 calories of petroleum energy to make a food calorie, either to make fertilizer or pesticide, drive the tractor, combine harvester or crop duster, to plastic wrap it, to haul it thousands of miles, and/or cook it. 3. Hubbert's Peak means oil production is likely to decrease over time while, incidentally, population is likely to increase over time. Sure you can transition to any energy source you want, just not in a hurry. We need decades to do it. 4. Fresh water from rain, rivers, meltwater or groundwater is also important to agriculture especially where it is hot.
Guess what big populations will be fighting over when we are old (I am 40). Petroleum, food, and water, maybe with nuclear weapons.
The kids die first from starvation and pestilence. That is about when adults go to war.Chris-marsh-usa (talk) 00:01, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
aschimothusia
editI arrived on this page following a link to aschimothusia but there is no mention of is onthis page. 86.144.27.9 (talk) 19:13, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Instead - Merge Benevolent Suicide into Altruistic Suicide
editI am asserting that Altruistic Suicide NOT be merged into Benevolent Suicide. I am advocating that the reverse be done - for the following reason: my perspective is that "benevolent" suicide is a subset of "altruistic" suicide. Altruistic suicide encompasses benevolent suicide, ritual suicide, cultural suicide, and heroic suicide, not the reverse. Such that this is true, the more general topic should remain, and the less general topic ought to be merged into the less specific, more general, larger topic. Benevolent suicide should be a topic within the subject of "Altruistic" suicide. Discuss; thanks in advance. B'H. Coutin-Kelikaku (talk) 20:40, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support and add that since "Altruistic suicide" is the term used in Durkeim's case study on suicide, it should be used as the main title. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs) 22:05, 22 November 2017 (UTC)