Talk:Believers' Church
Latest comment: 3 years ago by Telikalive in topic Is "Believers Church" a consensual term to characterize evangelicalism ?
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Is "Believers Church" a consensual term to characterize evangelicalism ?
editFor instance, French evangelicalism expert Sébastien Fath has used this concept of "Believers Church", to characterize evangelicalism. (Religioscope, Sébastien Fath, À propos de l’évangélisme et des Églises évangéliques en France – Entretien avec Sébastien Fath, religion.info, France, March 3, 2002). Other experts seem to do it as well. I wonder if there is a full consensus on the use of this term or if there are some experts opposed to it or at least who are characterizing evangelicalism differently.---Telikalive (talk) 20:48, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for starting this discussion User:Telikalive. Do you have any of the quotes from those who have used the term and how they define it? I don't know that most evangelical Christians teach this as a doctrine. I look forward to hearing from you. With regards, AnupamTalk 21:37, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- To editor Anupam: Here is the above quote : "The question of the presence or not of evangelicals within established churches is an open question, which raises debate. We can bring into play two slightly different definitions of evangelicalism, both of which, in my opinion, are interesting and admissible in certain respects. Rather, the broader definition emphasizes theology. From these criteria, one can consider that, in all the large established Churches and even within the limit of Catholicism, one can find evangelicals in the full sense of the term. However, I remain a little reserved with regard to this type of definition, which seems to me to be a bit of a catch-all. The criterion of "Believers Church" makes it possible more clearly to define what is called stricto sensu of evangelicals" (Fath, 2002)---Telikalive (talk) 21:55, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- User:Telikalive, my main concern is that the term "Believer's Church" is being used as the unifying doctrine of evangelicalism all across Wikipedia by the creator of this article despite the fact that it does not have common usage as far as I know. AnupamTalk 03:38, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- To editor Anupam: The concept of Believers' Church is focused on the process of membership in evangelicalism. At least in Evangelicalism#Church_government_and_membership this process is presented among others not as an unifying doctrine. It seems OK. But in Evangelical theology it is just mentioned in the lead without further explanation. This seems less OK. Anyway, the only thing to do first, is to read what the main experts (David W. Bebbington, Mark Noll, George Marsden, etc.) have to say on this concept, and how much it is consensual ---Telikalive (talk) 13:46, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- User:Telikalive, my main concern is that the term "Believer's Church" is being used as the unifying doctrine of evangelicalism all across Wikipedia by the creator of this article despite the fact that it does not have common usage as far as I know. AnupamTalk 03:38, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- To editor Anupam: Here is the above quote : "The question of the presence or not of evangelicals within established churches is an open question, which raises debate. We can bring into play two slightly different definitions of evangelicalism, both of which, in my opinion, are interesting and admissible in certain respects. Rather, the broader definition emphasizes theology. From these criteria, one can consider that, in all the large established Churches and even within the limit of Catholicism, one can find evangelicals in the full sense of the term. However, I remain a little reserved with regard to this type of definition, which seems to me to be a bit of a catch-all. The criterion of "Believers Church" makes it possible more clearly to define what is called stricto sensu of evangelicals" (Fath, 2002)---Telikalive (talk) 21:55, 19 August 2021 (UTC)