Talk:Beer in Wales

Why does heavy industry mean weak beer?

I think it is meant that the temperance movement means weak beer, but I am not sure what the heavy industry part means. obiously this article needs attention, but i am confident that it will be a good article eventually. Mexaguil 10:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

I assumed the implication was that weaker beer would be thirst-quenching as opposed to dehydrating [1]. Tearlach 03:27, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Allbright Bitter

I had a pint of this last night, I didn't know it was still being brewed. Tried googling it, and comes up as a brand that belonged to Bass in 1992. I wonder where and by who is it brewed these days (Bass closed it's Cardiff brewery in 1999). Would it go down as a 'Welsh identifying' if it's brewed in a Bass brewery/factory(!) in England?--Rhyswynne (talk) 15:29, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Beer making unique to British Isles?

@Stlemur, I changed the text to "Northern Europe" but you've reverted twice to British Isles. The original reason given to keep BI was that hops weren't used in the British Isles until 16th century. Simple research - e.g. The History of beer article - shows that this claim is not true. While it is true that hops were not used as much as say Germany, the unhopped beer brewing style was also carried out all over Northern Europe. In addition, traditions in Scotland and Ireland, while influenced to a great extent by Britain, have a different history (for example, the Irish tax system based on the malt used rather than the strength of beer). Your subsequent revert used the reasoning that there is "More to Britain than Kent". Last I looked, Kent is in the British Isles, so I don't understand what you are saying unless you are now trying to state "the British Isles, except Kent and other places that used hops". The claim is Original Research - see WP_OR. Please either provide references to show that this type of beer making was original to the British Isles, and different to other areas in Northern Europe, or leave to show that it was in line with beer from Northern Europe (as per other Wikipedia articles, other research, etc). Thank you. --Bardcom (talk) 21:03, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

You're misinterpreting what I said. The claim that there exists a "Northern European brewing tradition", beyond "we make beer", is the unsupported one; Henry VIII requiring hops in beer locks England and Wales together and then regulations following the Act of Union bring Scotland into it as well. For now I'm just going to kill the sentence entirely. --Stlemur (talk) 21:48, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

I've restored the lost British Isles. Its become clear that Bardcom simply objects to this phrase whereever it occurs, under the spurious grounds of OR William M. Connolley (talk) 21:01, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

We have edit wars on many pages with people both removing British Isles, and others seeking to put it in place on any article involving Wales, Ireland or whatever. It's all very silly and there is no need to support either side on this. It adds nothing to this article and the sentence is unnecessary although I see an edit war has started. --Snowded TALK 20:22, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Importance

Looking at the other articles, and the web traffic this article recieves, it does not deserve High status. Dropping to low.

Notability

Hate to open a can of worms, but how do we decide which breweries are included? I mean any man (or woman) brewing in his or her garden shed could claim to be a brewery. A recent edit here if for a brewery in Ruthin I'd never heard of (despite living there for six months recently), and the only mention of it on-line is its own Facebook page.--Rhyswynne (talk) 11:53, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

i'm old enough to remember Albright. it was rubbish. but then i worked for a while in a heavy hot job and a weak beer was ideal. my mate and i would go to the pub after work and order four pints, drink one each at the bar and then sit down to take a bit longer over the other one. in brewing circles 'albright' was a term of mild abuse - the only thing you could say about a beer was that it was clear. Daiyounger (talk) 22:50, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Brewers in Wales Table

The table currently uses a mixture of Ceremonial Counties and Principal areas (often "shires"). Does it need to be consistent? If so which should be used? Having these mixed counties alphabetically sortable is obviously very misleading. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:46, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

I agree with this - it should be the current counties, not preserved counties! Aar0sc (talk) 09:28, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

I have now boldly standardised it to Principal areas (the current local authorities) as most in the table are post-1996. DankJae 19:59, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

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