Talk:Battle of Tinzaouaten (2024)

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• ... that the Battle of Tinzaouaten likely saw the Wagner Group's largest death toll in Mali since its deployment there in 2021?

• Source: Bloomberg

• ALT1: ... that Ukraine's Main Directorate of Intelligence said that it provided Tuareg rebels assistance that enabled their victory in a battle against Wagner Group mercenaries in Mali?

• Source: The Guardian

• ALT2: ... that Ukraine's military intelligence agency provided support to Tuareg rebels in Mali during the Battle of Tinzaouaten?

• Source: The Guardian

• ALT3: ... that Nikita Fedyanin, the administrator of the Wagner Group-linked Telegram channel Grey Zone, was killed during the Battle of Tinzaouaten?

• Source: Voice of America

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Created by Chomik1129 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Chomik! (talk?) 17:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC).

• @Chomik: can you pick a hook that's more definitive? "Likely" sounds ambiguous and usually requires attribution.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 14:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • @Vice regent: most sources agree that this was the Wagner Group's biggest loss in Mali ([1] [2] [3]) but I'm not sure if it would be acceptable to remove the word "likely" since there's no confirmed death toll. If not, I could change the hook to be about Ukraine's involvement. Chomik! (talk?) 14:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

If the toll is not confirmed best not to use it as a hook. Ukraine's involvement does sound more interesting.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 16:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

@Vice regent: added an alt hook about Ukraine. Chomik! (talk?) 17:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

It looks good as it is. I would prefer "that Ukraine said it provided Tuareg rebels with assistance in their successful ambush of Wagner Group mercenaries in Mali?" As I said on talk this was more of an ambush. But I think your alt is fine too.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 22:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Full review needed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:59, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Will take, probably tomorrow. For now, striking ALT0.--Launchballer 14:32, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@Chomik1129: Long enough, new enough. No copyright concerns, no maintenance templates deserved, no QPQ needed. The hook does not meet WP:DYKINT - please propose a hook that is unusual or intriguing to a broad audience.--Launchballer 07:43, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

@Chomik1129: Please address the above.--Launchballer 09:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

@Launchballer: I created a hook that I think is easier to understand. What are your thoughts? Chomik! (talk?) 10:31, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Comprehensibility isn't the problem, although that is a better hook in that respect. A country providing support during a battle is not unusual.--Launchballer 10:39, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

@Launchballer: I see. I added another hook, do you think it's okay? Chomik! (talk?) 12:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Merge proposal

I propose a merger Tinzaouaten ambush into Battle of Tinzaouaten (2024), I created that article not knowing this article exists and thus it is a duplicate article.Garmin21 (talk) 06:53, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

I agree. As you created the article and the only other contributor has made just a few copy edits, I think you should boldly go ahead and merge. Nurg (talk) 09:13, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Agree to merging. I also think "ambush" is a more WP:COMMONNAME than "battle"[4][5].VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 13:15, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Support. Bold merge works in this scenario as it's an unintended extra. Jebiguess (talk) 18:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm going to go ahead and merge if not one has any objections--Garmin21 (talk) 06:54, 1 August 2024 (UTC)