Talk:Barbara Bain

Name Change

I was hoping to find a brief explanation of her name change. Why did she select "Barbara" and "Bain"? --165.225.38.80 (talk) 14:59, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

I just came here to ask the same thing. -- Beardo (talk) 14:13, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

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I was outraged to read ctress Barbara Bain referred to in your article about her as a "Jewish-American" actress. What moron wrote this? I have yet to see anyone called a "Christian-American." How incredibly bigoted and insulting to Jews. I can't even begin to list the ways in which this is offensive. I'd like to see the expression taken out of the article -- it's flat bigoted -- no Jews in American call themselves "Jewish-Americans."

Shame on you and the Creep-American who wrote it. Belle Schwartz San Francisco—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.131.251.143 (talk) 09:58, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

The person who inserted that phrasing, User:Vulturell is a self-styled "Wikipedia's big celebrity ethnic/religious background expert... If there's an actor profile out there I haven't updated... well, I probably still will." I don't think that he means it as an insult, but I can understand your point. I've removed the reference. -- PKtm 02:28, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, our American Jews article speficially refers to the term Jewish American. As we do Italian American and Irish American. These are all common terms refering to ethnicity-nationality. We don't have Christian American because that's specifically a religion, not an ethnic background. I made this update a long time ago, since then me and anyone working on similar areas have stopped putting that kind of info into the first sentence, and instead it now goes under "Early Life" or something later down (the same for calling someone an Italian American). Your problem, Ms. Schwartz, is clearly with the term itself, "Jewish American", and in that case it has nothing to do with Barbara Bain. Your complaint should go over to the long article titled American Jews. Vulturell 03:33, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Anyway, I've fixed up the article to now say "Bain was born Millicent Fogel to a Jewish American family in Chicago, Illinois.". See a similar wording in Martin Scorsese, "Martin Scorsese came from a working class Italian-American family". Vulturell 03:39, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply, but with all due respect, I have to say that I think you're missing the reader's point. She seemed to object to Bain, specifically, being identified as to her ethnic heritage, because that heritage has nothing to do with Bain's career (unlike, say, Woody Allen). It strikes me, too, as fairly random and irrelevant to refer to Bain's ethnic derivation, and in particular, to edit the article so that it pointedly makes that heritage known. Ethnicity is irrelevant for the vast majority of us Americans, unless we choose to make our ethnic background a specific focus of our lives. I know of nothing about Bain's career that would indicate to me that she's done so, so why drop in on her article and point out her ethnic heritage? Please consider removing the reference entirely. -- PKtm 13:10, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

I could not agree more. I'm glad to see that insulting reference has been removed. We don't refer to people as Christian-American or Mormon-American. That would be wrong and purely divisive. 98.194.39.86 (talk) 04:26, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

It's back, but in a different form. "the daughter of Russian Jewish immigrants." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.234.214.254 (talk) 20:33, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Jewish American -

This is Michael 14:12, 27 December 2005 (UTC). I wrote the original text of this article, but didn't include the reference "Jewish American". I removed it... Just so there isn't any more discussion that gets out of hand... Michael 14:12, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Biography assessment rating comment

WikiProject Biography Assessment The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 13:41, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Date of birth

Edits on consecutive days have added a date of birth, each of which I removed because the sources were WP:USERGENERATED. If other editors want to add a date of birth, please avoid sites such as IMDb that contain user-generated content. They are not reliable for use as citations in Wikipedia articles. Eddie Blick (talk) 17:48, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Cinnamon Carter "Crawford"?

I pride myself on being a Mission: Impossible super-fan, but this has genuinely puzzled me. I do not recall any reference by the character of Cinnamon Carter -- nor any other M:I character -- of Cinnamon being married or leaving the Impossible Missions Force because she got married to a Mr. Crawford. Are you certain that including that name is correct? Reading the annotation, it makes me think perhaps someone confused the actual character with one of the many aliases that Cinnamon used. Thanks. 150.135.165.67 (talk) 21:45, 27 November 2023 (UTC)