Talk:Baikonur

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With relation to the paragraph labelled "Common misunderstanding", the article on Baikonur Cosmodrome says that the city was renamed Baikonur in 1995 (1996, according to http://home.comcast.net/~rusaerog/centers/Baykonur.html). From what I can gather from such sites as http://www.kosmotras.ru/bay2.htm, the railway station is indeed called Turatam, because it was originally in the separate, older town by that name - I think that the city has now engulfed the old village. Owl 18:00, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Well maybe. Dates differ in different sources. But the russian/soviet tradition is to keep names of railway stations regardless of embracing cities. Hence, Turatam must be still there. --jno 09:27, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Oh yes, I don't doubt that it is still called that, I just felt it would be a little clearer to explain why the railway station has a different name to the rest of the city/launch complex. Well, in the absence of anyone having disagreed, I'm going to have a go at tidying the article up. Owl 21:55, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

I've had a go at cleaning it up, but I've left the quality tag on it so that someone else can give it a look over before declaring it OK. Owl 22:12, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Location 45.9646131535N 63.3050724255E

I'd preserve the loc here... --jno 07:25, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

P.S. the place at google map --jno 10:49, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Turatam - broken arrow?

Sorry, in which language Turatam means the broken arrow? In kazakh to're tam means noble's house. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Karakurt (talk • contribs).

I dunno for sure. This tale is circulating in many printed sources. On the other hand, it's a north-east Kazakhstan and the population may include folks of another languages. --jno 10:47, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

1. It's not north-east, it's south-west (no big difference?)
2. 'population may include folks of another languages' ? Maybe it's russian word? NO.
3. Broken arrow in kazakh means 'synyq oq'. (Sounds like tura tam?)
4. Tore tam IS kazakh and means tore - noble and tam - dug-out, grave.
Tura tam means Noble's grave. Point. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.218.8.72 (talk • contribs).

Relation between Baikonur & Baikonur Cosmodrome

How has the fortunes of Baikonur been affected by the Baikonur Cosmodrome, if the Baikonur Cosmodrome is 199 miles southwest of Baikonur? - MSTCrow 01:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikiality Alert

The article on the Baikonur Cosmodrome says this:

It is sometimes assumed that the name "Baikonur" was chosen to intentionally mislead the West as to the actual location of the site by suggesting that the site was near Baikonur, a mining town about 320 kilometers (199 mi) northeast of the space centre in the desert area near Dzhezkazgan. Others assert Baikonur also refers to the entire region.[1]

It offers a citation for this too. So something's wrong with one of these articles.

Plus, what on Earth is all this nonsense about the train station? What is the name of the train station? It's obviously important enough to someone to mention it, but is is supposed to be secret? Does no-one know?

This is a terrible, terrible article. Completely worthless, and obviously factually flawed. 1st class typical Wikiality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.140.187 (talk) 13:25, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Excuse me, can anyone tell me why this part of the world hase a perfect circle surouning in on google maps? Is it one of these unoficial Micro nations? Does anyone also know if there are any naval vessals that patrol the Aral see? Civilian knowledge (talk) 16:48, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

I would imagine that the circle approximates the area of the cosmodrome which is leased to the Russians by the Kazakhs. Most all of the launch facilities are inside the circle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SkoreKeep (talk • contribs) 06:28, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

This article is an another example of English Wiki's russophobia. What is this number in total population? Is it Kazakstan citizens only? Look into Russian article, there are 73 127. Does it means that non-citizens of Kazakstan (Russians in this case) is not a people? 94.247.241.163 (talk) 11:32, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

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Closed City and Access

The article states:

Foreign visitors will need pre-approval from the Russian authorities to visit both the town of Baikonur itself and the Cosmodrome. Note that said approval is completely separate from just having a Russian Visa; Generally speaking, approval to visit Baikonur is best organised via third-party tourism operators.

Given that Baikonur is now in an independent Kazakhstan, in how far is this still true? Any references or explanations (is Baikonur still closed but controlled by Kazahkstan or does Russia still hold control over this, and if so under what authorities)? Sejtam (talk) 17:22, 27 May 2018 (UTC)