Talk:Baháʼí House of Worship (Wilmette, Illinois)

The number nine

I'm Nonpartisan 22:22, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Greetings Friends, what a nice new page you made for the House of Worship in Wilmette. However, why be so wimpy on why the building has nine sides? That nine is the highest number is really the least important number. Nine is the number of Baha: In the Abjad numerals system B+a+h+A is 2+1+5+1 which is nine. If you look above every door of the building you see the lovely letters that make ABHA, same equation 1+2+5+1, also nine.

If I try to write this, you won't like it, but really, the Temple is nine-sided because that's the number of Baha, meaning it's Baha'u'llah's House of Worship.I'm Nonpartisan 22:18, 8 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by I'm nonpartisan (talk • contribs)

Well, the explanation I got comes from this book. I don't have the book with me right now, so I don't remember if it also discusses what you're describing. (Though I'm sure it's possible.) Zagalejo^^^ 22:36, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Good work so far - does need more citations... Smkolins (talk) 12:17, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Temple or House of Worship?

While both terms are used I feel that "House of Worship" is more standard use. Smkolins (talk) 01:48, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

I think the previous page title also offered more precision. (Unless this is the only such structure that is commonly referred to as a "Temple".) Zagalejo^^^ 03:28, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, the previous name is more correct, as Baha'i Temple is not only a misnomer, as there are no Baha'i temples, but even when the misnomer is used it could be any Baha'i House of Worship in the world. Regards, -- Jeff3000 (talk) 03:57, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Grosse Pointe?

I'm not very familiar with Cook County geography, but I think there is an error in this part of Bahá'í House of Worship (Wilmette, Illinois)#Early plans:

The Bahá'ís considered building the temple in Chicago's Jackson Park or the suburb of Evanston,[5] but eventually settled on the Grosse Pointe area in Wilmette, Illinois, just north of Evanston. True began coordinating work and acted as the treasurer of the growing effort[6]

[5] is a reference to pages 37–38 of The Dawning Place (ISBN 0-87743-193-0). Google Books says "Gross Point" appears 15 times, and will show me parts of 3 or 4 pages that it claims "Gross Point" appears on, but strangely, won't show the actual parts where the phrase appears. [6] is a reference to http://rsmd.net/research/true-corrine which does not mention Gross Point.

There was a village of Gross Point from 1874 to the mid-1920s, and at least part of it (and maybe all of it) was annexed to Wilmette from 1924 to 1926. But it was west of the Chicago & Northwestern Railroad. See, for example, Ridge Road on the right side of the 1920 map at http://www.idaillinois.org/cdm/ref/collection/wilmette/id/1018 and notice that Winnetka and Kenilworth already come up to the C&NW tracks in the northeast corner. There is also a detailed description of the boundaries at http://web.archive.org/web/20070726221118/http://www.wilmette.com/whpc/historyofwilmette.htm but I didn't trace all the details in that text; I basically got the idea that original village of Wilmette was between the village Gross Point and Lake Michigan, and the temple is on the wrong side of current Wilmette to have been in the village of Gross Point. One would expect http://www.bahai.us/bahai-temple/history-and-architecture/ to mention Gross Point also, but it doesn't. (And, strangely, many early texts just refer to the location as "Chicago" or "just north of Chicago".) --Closeapple (talk) 05:15, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

"Gross Point" also refers to a geographic feature along the lake. The Grosse Point Lighthouse (a few blocks south of the Temple on Sheridan) is named after that feature. Anyway, I cut that part out of the sentence until I can get my hands on the book. (Note that the referencing has gotten messed up over time; originally, that sentence was sourced to pages 42 and 43.) Zagalejo^^^ 05:21, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

John Joseph Early

Hey you guys, Up until this minute, when I added a link, the entry of John Joseph Early had no mention of his work on the Baha'i House of Worship: https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/John_Joseph_Earley#Life I'm Nonpartisan 04:21, 14 December 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by I'm nonpartisan (talk • contribs)

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Found this:

• Stephen A. Koel, NSA Properties, INC. (May 23, 1978). "National registry of historic places inventory nomination form". archives.gov. National Archives, US.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
• Allen Boyer McDaniel (1953). The spell of the temple. Vantage Press.
• Frederick William Cron (1977). The man who made concrete beautiful: a biography of John Joseph Earley. Centennial Publications. Smkolins (talk) 21:54, 3 October 2017 (UTC)