Talk:Ava Alice Muriel Astor

Ancestry and names per her multiple marriages

You keep removing citing "overkill", that does not appear to be a Wikipedia !law. It just means, you do not like it. I have already compromised by changing the formatting. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 22:05, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

There is however such thing as adding too much detail to a page. The ancestry table is also mostly unsourced and has no real benefit, especially when an Astor family article talking about ancestors already exists. This isn't a genealogy page. Snuggums (talk / edits) 23:03, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

The references to the family tree appear in the articles that are blue linked. I am not aware that the ancestry tables require them. That would be an eyesore, just as references in infoboxes are not required. The ahnentafel template is used in over 10,000 articles. I stopped counting at 20 clicks of 500. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 23:30, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Just because other pages have certain things doesn't necessarily mean this one should. That sort of thing would be better for a genealogy article. As said before, that's not what this page is. While one could have members from such tables previously cited within other parts of article body, solely mentioning them in the table without adding good referencing to an article goes against the verifiability policy. Also, see WP:Verifiability#Wikipedia and sources that mirror or use it. Snuggums (talk / edits) 23:52, 5 September 2016 (UTC)