Talk:Aurora (mythology)

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She was frequently seen with keys in her hand, because she opened and closed the gates of the sky for her brother and sister every dawn and dusk. She didn't have any luck with love. She had many lovers younger than her, for example Astraios. They had four children together (Boreas, Euros, Zephuros and Notus), who later became the four winds of north, south, east and west.

Is there a "frequent" image of Aurora with keys, then? Which Roman poet or mythographer tells of Aurora and Astraios?--Wetman (talk) 16:41, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Here's a source (1916) for the Eos/Astraios myth: http://books.google.com/books?id=QqkTAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA247 Gavroche42 (talk) 16:33, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Was the "Mentioned in Literature and Music"section copied and pasted in? Could this section just list the names of the literature and music it is in, instead of inputting the lyric? VikingVeteran (talk) 02:47, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Which image would be better for the top of the article?

• Option A: The one that has been there since an IP editor added it on July 5, 2021.
• Option B: The previous picture.

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– MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 13:20, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

• The argument being made here seems to be that the change should be made on the basis of the current image being offensive. I don't agree with this; nudity is common in classical art and sculpture, as well as in post-classical representations of mythological figures, and prominent pages such as Dionysus, Aphrodite, Hermes, and Apollo feature examples of such nudity in their lead images. As to the actual choice between the images, I wouldn't say I really feel strongly either way; the former is a clearer representation I suppose, although I must admit it's not clear to me that the painting is actually of the Aurora from Roman mythology, as opposed to just a general personified notion of "Dawn" (I seem to remember a similar Bouguereau painting previously heading Nyx's page). Preferable to both paintings would be a classical depiction of Aurora. – Michael Aurel (talk) 14:34, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

  A look at the LIMC doesn't indicate a whole lot of choice with respect to classical depictions (there only seem to be around 4 or 5), though one of these is apparently the famous Prima Porta statue; [1] Aurora is shown on the breastplate, a good quality close-up of which might work well. – Michael Aurel (talk) 05:15, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

I agree with Michael Aurel, in that I see nothing shocking, offensive or vulgar about the current image, and that a classical image would be preferable to either image. However of the two, the current image is simpler and more narrowly focused on Aurora, and to me at least more aesthetically pleasing. Paul August ☎ 23:08, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

• In hindsight, I should've provided a customizable third option. (Option C: A different picture of your choice, if neither A or B are satisfactory.) – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 13:01, 12 November 2024 (UTC)