Talk:Assassination of Wissam al-Hassan
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Merge and Title
editIt seems either Wissam al-Hassan should be merged into here or the opposite. FunkMonk (talk) 22:38, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- There are two articles about Rafic Hariri and Assassination of Rafic Hariri then why not two articles here.
Gladexistio (talk) 22:50, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
I think the best way to solve this issue is to keep Wissam al-Hassan's page while renaming this one October 2012 Beirut Bombing. This way, we can make a point of the other victims and they do not go forgotten too. We're talking 100+ wounded as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karim226 (talk • contribs) 06:59, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Then again, all sources and international parties seem to agree that this was a targeted attack against a specific individual, with the bystanders being unintended collateral. --hydrox (talk) 08:54, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Agree with Karim26. Hassam was kill among 7 other people so I think this isn´t a very right name. Moreover, we don´t know 100% that he was the target (although personally for me it is as clear as crystal)--Comet21 (talk) 15:35, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose merge. This is big news and deserves its own article.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 03:02, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Title change
editI also propose we change the title of this article to 2012 Beirut bombing per wp:commonname. This is what most news sources are calling it. It might be an assisination, but the phrase "Beirut bombing" is far more commonly used.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 03:02, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Also, I don't mind adding October in the title, I don't think it matters. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 03:07, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- The current WP:LEADSENTENCE is for article "Assassination of Wissam al-Hassan". This should be fixed, but I am having hard time writing the opening so that it does not name al-Hassan as the primary target of the attack. --hydrox (talk) 11:01, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- The lede sentence doesn't have to bold something all the time. See WP:SBE.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 12:42, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- The current WP:LEADSENTENCE is for article "Assassination of Wissam al-Hassan". This should be fixed, but I am having hard time writing the opening so that it does not name al-Hassan as the primary target of the attack. --hydrox (talk) 11:01, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose title change from Assassination of Wissam al-Hassan to either 2012 Beirut bombing or October 2012 Beirut bombing.
- However, 2012 Beirut bombing seems obviously preferable over October 2012 Beirut bombing per WP:NAMINGCRITERIA ("Titles usually use names and terms that are precise enough to unambiguously identify the topical scope of the article, but not overly precise" and " Titles are concise, and not overly long.") "Year place attack_type" is the convention followed by at least 2011 Norway attacks and 2010 Stockholm bombings, and there have been no major bombings in Beirut earlier this year that would risk confusion. Thus, using "October" in the name when it is not really required sounds even WP:CRYSTAL'ic, because it seems to assume there will be more bombings to come in Beirut in 2012.
- As the move to the more concise name could be still done without sysadmin intervention, I've boldly done it. --hydrox (talk) 11:25, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Requested move 8 June 2024
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved to proposed title (non-admin closure) >>> Extorc.talk 12:55, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
October 2012 Beirut bombing → Assassination of Wissam al-Hassan – per WP:CRITERIA and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC; nearly every article I've seen about this bombing either explicitly mentions Wissam al-Hassan outright, or say that it killed a high-level Lebanese official as a reference to him (with some sources in this very article calling it an assassination). It's pretty clear that this fact is by far the most significant aspect of the bombing, and changing the title to something that mentions al-Hassan would be an easy way to make this article distinguishable from the many other Beirut bombings. XTheBedrockX (talk) 08:52, 8 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:38, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- Support: Nothing else to mention really. I concur with what you're saying. Prodrummer619 (talk) 14:33, 19 June 2024 (UTC)