Talk:Asphyxia

Superfluous Material

Many of the categorizations in this page are uneven. For example, Carbon Monoxide inhalation should be grouped with "exposure to chemicals...". In addition, I don't think that perinatal asphix. deserves its own headline, and should be put on the bullet point list.

-- Rabbitflyer 04/06/2014

BDSM

Sensual Asphyxia,in the BDSM language,is the method when a people try to take total control over other trought the breath control.This practise is accepted in the BDSM lifestyle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.1.39.145 (talk • contribs) 22:28, 19 December 2005

I find the italicized warning about erotic asphyxia to be highly insulting - breath control is a safe activity practiced by thousands without incident. Editing to reflect even a modicum of neutrality. Wrath0fb0b —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wrath0fb0b (talk • contribs) 08:22, 19 February 2006

Asphyxia through hypobaric, Altitude, conditions

You may want to add anoxia, really hypoxia, through hypobaric conditions (as opposed to hyperbaric) such as altitude. Pilots can go unconcious on aircraft depressurisation as low as 20,000', although with practice and aclimatisation people climb to 26,000'+ and remain both conscious and active. Death will occur fairly quickly at 30,000'. Sorry no reliable detail on the exact altitudes. Some stuff under high altitude chamber. Ex nihil 07:10, 1 March 2006 (UTC) Also need to add carbon monoxide effect on haemoglobin oxygen displacement under chemical causes.Ex nihil 07:22, 1 March 2006 (UTC) See http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2002training/wakayama3.pdf Ex nihil 07:40, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

lack of oxegen

more carbon dioxide less oxegen to the body..what is the outcome.results'

To clarify, I think, what is it when the CO2 levels in the air being breathed exceeds the level where the vapor pressure of CO2 in the body is lower that the vapor pressure of CO2 in the air? Oxygen is still present in air in most cases of suffocation in closed spaces, but the CO2 levels are too high for the body to expell the CO2. I know that fruits are commonly stored in warehouses with high levels of CO2 to delay spoilage, and a common accident is a worker rushing in without oxygen because he can hold his breath to do something he forgot or to help someone who has passed out. What is this form of suffocation called? Mulp (talk) 00:40, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

More about plastic bag asphyxia...

It's been neglected to be mentioned that plastic bags are used in murder to suffocate. Could someone add more on this?Ollie the Magic Skater 02:24, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

references

something is wrong with the references, but as it uses Cite.php I am not sure how to fix it. Any help would be appreciated. BadCRC 17:24, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I fixed it. Although the system used now is a bit awkward with cite.php mixed with the old footnotes. But it works. --Marcus 01:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I noticed that it doesn't work after all. Oh well, I don't know which system will replace this method, as far as i know, cite.php does not yet have that kind of support. --Marcus 01:13, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

RE: Drowning

Check number 3: "Physical obstruction of the flow of air to the lungs". Does the thing for drowning make sense? And second, should it even be on there? Drowning is when fluid builds in the lungs. Different than asphyxia. Can someone second this for me? J.T. 01:23, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

The picture

It'd be thoughtful if someone changes the picture to the right(which currently contains a suffocated woman in a bikini swimsuit) to another containing a man, because the current one is offensive for us, Muslims, as it is forbidden to see such parts of woman's body(except for our wives) check the following link for details Women_in_Muslim_societies#Clothing. unfortunatly, I don't have any pictures of a man suffocating, If I had I would have changed it myself.

Picture removed, but mostly because it was misleading for the main infobox, as asphyxia doesn't necessarily connote drowning.--Elcocinero 16:55, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

The picture (again)

Is the picture necessary at all ? The text makes it clear what asphyxia is. I don't like the image.

Do we really need a picture of a corpse?

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I don't think so. The opening sentence makes the topic clear - "Asphyxia is a condition of severely deficient supply of oxygen to the body that arises from being unable to breathe normally".

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The picture should go.

Even the article on death doesn't have a picture of a corpse. I know Wikipedia isn't censored and blah blah blah but I don't think it's appropriate to have this picture. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 01:50, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Though I don't really care about seeing dead people, I agree it doesn't really add much to the article. Since no one has voiced an opinion otherwise, I removed it. Feel free to debate further if you disagree! InvictaHOG 02:44, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Excellent. Thank you all!

Health effects

Where are the health effects? Is this page just a list of ways to suffocate yourself? Fresheneesz 21:27, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

The Hypoxia page also doesn't talk about health effects. Fresheneesz 21:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

riot-crush

One text talks about this term, but it is not used in practise amongst crowd researchers. I'm removing it for now. -- cmh^TC 00:38, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Asphyxia in other subjects

While I am unaware of the use of the term 'asphyxia' to refer to plants, I do know that plants can suffocate. Certainly there should be some mention of plant and other non-animal organisms on this page. Perhaps an expert could add some information about it. --Chopin-Ate-Liszt! (talk) 00:23, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

burked

Currently Burked redirects to Asphyxia#Smothering, and this article already has 3 disambig and "see also" links at the top, would it be overkill to somehow add a link to the CSI episode, too? - 68.146.190.58 (talk) 07:46, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

house fires

most people die in house fires from asphyxia and not a word mentioned? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.186.242.58 (talk) 17:58, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

List at the start of article?

There is a list, but the article doesn't even indicate what is being listed. It looks like a list of possible causes of asphyxia to me, but this should be made clear. Much noise (talk) 03:12, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Food oil tank?

This example had me scratching my head. Not knowing what was being referred to or why anyone would be inside one made it an incomprehensible section for me. If others agree, the article would be better without it. EdX20 (talk) 21:52, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

What if it's due to toxic gas?

Then it's not just asphyxiation, it's suffocation right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.74.254.99 (talk) 22:47, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Deaths from helium?

Currently the article cites the following statement:

The use of simple asphyxiant gases, such as the inhalation of pure helium for entertainment purposes, has resulted in death and brain injury from oxygen deficiency.

to the following reference:

Haugan K, Lam HR, Knudsen CB, Petersen JS (2004). "Atrial fibrillation in rats induced by rapid transesophageal atrial pacing during brief episodes of asphyxia: a new in vivo model". J. Cardiovasc. Pharmacol. 44 (1): 125–35. doi:10.1097/00005344-200407000-00017. PMID 15175567. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)

I checked the source and, as one might suspect, it has nothing to do with this. The word "helium" does not occur in it anywhere, nor does it say very much about humans at all (just rats). This appears to be an error. Dcoetzee 06:48, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

I've re-removed that statement. Going by this article in Slate, which I realise is a few years old and not a perfect source, it seems unlikely that helium inhalation for entertainment purposes has resulted in death. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 11:53, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

CPR to a smothering victim

I assume CPR is the standard emergency medical procedure to be performed on a lifeless smothering victim. Is this so, and what is the prognosis, given that the smothering has just taken place? __meco (talk) 19:43, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Pornstar

What about the pornstar Asphyxia?

• https://twitter.com/AsphyxiaNoir
• http://www.porntube.com/pornstars/asphyxia
• https://mompov.xxx/actor/asphyxia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1308:2742:4200:14E0:C378:EB57:1AA2 (talk) 05:49, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

I mean she must be notable since she has like hundreds of videos... --Free Wales Now! what did I screw up?  14:38, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Sections missing?

Just came across this article while editing something unrelated, but I do notice that there are no "Symptoms" or "Treatment" sections. Obviously, Wikipedia is not a medical dictionary nor a substitute for an actual doctor, but many other articles about similar medical conditions do seem to have these sections. At the very least, it would seem appropriate to link to relevant sections at Hypoxia (medical) and other such articles. Right now, the article consists mainly of a lead and a "Causes" section, with three subsections about common causes. -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 22:00, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Ondine's Curse

Ondine's Curse has a specific definition on this page of requiring conscious breathing, but I've been unable to find anything that suggests it's accurate. Materials I've found typically describe it as presenting with sleep apnea, poor ventilation, poor response of discomfort from carbon dioxide build-up and some effects associated with long-term hypoxia if not death in infancy. Materials do vary some, but it is a rare condition and while failure of the autonomic nervous system is mentioned, there's nothing about conscious breathing and the eMedicine source specifically states this is not the case (even if this point is made in a hyper-technical statement). This is from the page for Ondine's Curse and more specifically from the Classifications and External Resources. TheAdmiral (talk) 17:01, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

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Planning to move material from Positional Asphyxia page

Planning to move material related to knee on belly, the Garner, and Floyd cases from Positional asphyxia the Mechanical Asphyxiation Article section of this page. Please see the talk page of Positional asphyxia. There have not been any objections there. Much of the material on Positional Asphyxia is actually mechanical asphyxia. Positional Asphyxia only relates to asphyxia caused by the position someone is placed in and does not assume that anything or anyone is mechanically preventing breathing. Please let me know if you have any thoughts on this edit!Thehittite (talk) 21:24, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Really confusing intro

"Asphyxia or asphyxiation is a condition of deficient supply of oxygen to the body that arises from abnormal breathing. An example of asphyxia is choking." ??? What does breathing have to do with it?? This makes it sound like you asphyxiate because you're breathing wrong. Why make it complicated? Just say it's a lack of oxygen...

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Ashyxia

Explaining about the ashyxia 102.149.110.188 (talk) 11:29, 8 October 2022 (UTC)