Talk:Aphrodite (Kylie Minogue album)

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March 8, 2011Guild of Copy EditorsCopyedited
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Edit request from 162.119.68.248, 6 May 2010

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A 5th album track titled "Put Your Hands Up" has been confirmed. Source: http://www.elleuk.com/in-the-mag/feature/(section)/kylie-in-love 162.119.68.248 (talk) 21:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

  Note: Due to the passage of time, this request is no longer relevant. I Help, When I Can. [12] 21:37, 4 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

Edit request from Peyodi, 2 June 2010

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"Get Outta My Way" was originally written by Peter Wallevik, Daniel Davidsen, Lucas Secon, Cutfather and Damon Sharpe.[8] In an interview with HitQuarters, Secon described the track as "sexy electro disco with some clever lyrics and some real catchy melodies." He said the song wasn't written for any particular artist and at one point four different artists wanted to cut it as their first single before it was claimed by Kylie.[8] Peyodi (talk) 21:10, 2 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: Hi there, I've declined this request as no request has been made to edit the article. Please make sure that in any future requests that you make you use the format "Please change x to y", otherwise it can be difficult for us to find out exactly what edit you would like to be made to the page. Thanks, Jeffrey Mall (talkcontribs) - 02:00, 3 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Edit request from Peyodi, 7 June 2010

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Background Information : "Get Outta My Way" was originally written by Peter Wallevik, Daniel Heløy Davidsen, Lucas Secon, Cutfather and Damon Sharpe.[8] Peyodi (talk) 10:53, 7 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: As per previous declined request, no article change requested, along with lack of reliable sources.

Edit request from 83.4.169.70, 27 June 2010

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Please, add the info that the album leaked on the net on 25th june 2010. 83.4.169.70 (talk) 08:03, 27 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: until you show me what source that comes from. Mr. R00t Talk 22:02, 27 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Edit request from YourBadRomance, 7 July 2010

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"Get Outta My Way" is confirmed as the next single from the album, although the date of its release has yet to be confirmed. If you could make the change under the singles. Kylie has posted a video confirming it herself on her official youtube page. View the video here: (Watch around the 3:50 mark) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkVR84nrnpw --YourBadRomance (talk) 21:04, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Thank you :)Reply

  Not done for now: We need an official press release from Kylie.com or EMI/Parlophone or some other reliable source to confirm the second single. This might change it's not 100% sure yet. MariAna_MiMi (Talk) 22:04, 7 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Not the only artist to have number one's in 4 different decades

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Kylie is not the only artist to have number ones in 4 decades. ABBA have number ones in the 70s, 80s, 90s and 00s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.177.241.74 (talk) 07:46, 12 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

That is false! ABBA did not have Nr.1 albums in the 00s or 10s. They only had Nr.1 albums in the 70s, 80s and 90s. MariAna_MiMi (Talk) 10:20, 12 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
Abba have number 1 albums in 4 consecutive decades. ABBA Gold topped the chart again in August 2008. Therefore No.1 albums in 70s, 80s, 90s and 00s. http://everyhit.co.uk/numberalb6.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.177.241.74 (talk) 13:30, 12 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
That is not where you should be searching your info. That site is not reliable. Here OCC UK you will find the Nr.1 ABBA albums.
70's
  • Arrival, 1976
  • The Album, 1977
  • Voulez-Vous, 1979
  • Greatest Hits Vol 2, 1979
80s
  • The Visitors, 1981
  • Super Trouper, 1980
  • The Singles: The First Ten Years, 1982
90s
  • Abba Gold, 1992

You will have to find a reliable source for that, but even if the album entered the charts again in 2008, it was released in 1992. It was not released between 2000 and 2009. MariAna_MiMi (Talk) 14:02, 12 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Several other sites state that ABBA Gold returned to the top of the chart in August 2008

http://icethesite.com/default.aspx?articleID=194

including Wikipedia itself:

http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/ABBA_Gold#cite_note-4

What does it matter when it was released? ABBA have number one albums in 4 consecutive decades —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.177.241.74 (talk) 14:16, 12 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

The article says she is the only female artist, I don't know when that was changed, so the article may be correct now, however there are 3 sources for that sentence (references 4 5 and 6) and none state she is the only female artist [...] they only state the current number one spot of her album and the BBC article states her other number ones album. Is there a source that states she's the only female artist with no.1 albums in the UK? Also, ABBA GOLD was re-released a couple of times after 1992, even with new artworks. If then it hit no.1 again I don't know, but if it does, then it should qualify as charting in those years it was reissued.Dollvalley (talk) 00:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
Here is another source that says that she is the only female artist to achieve this : http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a242181/kylie-celebrates-album-success.html MariAna_MiMi (Talk) 08:33, 14 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Edit Request On Aphrodite Chart Positions

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Aphrodite is now no.1 in the Greece albums charts, preceded by Ozzy Osbourne 'Scream'. Source: http://www.ifpi.gr/chart01.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.153.34 (talk) 00:39, 5 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Expansion Request by Salgado96 (10-08-2010)

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Hi there!
I was wondering if this page could be expanded like lady gaga's The Fame Monster. That structure is more complete than this one. Thank You, Salgado96 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Salgado96 (talkcontribs) 20:30, 10 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Mexican Albums Chart

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Kylie.com lists Aphrodite as entering the Mexican albums chart at no.1 in the news article about the Mexican tour dates. Source: http://www.kylie.com/news/pop-icon-kylie-minogue-has-announced-mexican-dates-for-her-%E2%80%9Caphrodite-les-folies%E2%80%9D-2011-world-tour-el-icono-del-pop-kylie-minogue-da-a-conocer-las-fechas-en-mexico-de-su-gira/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.143.78 (talk) 10:18, 13 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

Copy Editing

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I have added the copy edit template to this article because I believe this page needs it. There are countless "[...]" all over this article, and with statements like In Germany, the album got her third studio album to reach the top ten and In an interview with BlackBook Magazine, Minogue said about Aphrodite: a cleanup is needed. — Gabe 19 (talk contribs) 07:09, 26 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

In progress, will remove tag when I'm done. GRAPPLE X 23:37, 6 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Suggested merge

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I suggest that the article is merged into the main album, for the following reasons:

  1. As song, it received NO independent coverage from the album.
  2. The reception it did recieve (stemming from album reviews) is minimal and uninformative.
  3. Although it charted, it charted on insignificant chart, the Ultratip in Belgium is the equivalent of the Bubbling Under Billboard charts, and is extremely insignificant considering the size of the Belgian music market.
  4. Per WP:NSONGS, subjects which are unlikely to grow beyond stubs, and where there is not sufficient independent coverage from third-party reliable sources should not receive an independent article. — Lil_niquℇ 1 [talk] 21:51, 29 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
Now that I am back, I will finish what I started here. I Help, When I Can. [12] 23:12, 8 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

I think the Aphrodite (song) article should just be deleted as it gives no additional information to what is on the Aphrodite (album) page. Mirrored Love (talk) 23:26, 3 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Support - Some of the information in this article can be fitted into the album's article. So I agree that it should be merged. Bleubeatle (talk) 06:13, 31 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

Belgium Certification

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Culd someone add the GOLD certification that Aphrodite got in Belgium. It's on the Kylie Minogue albums discography article, and here's the source: http://www.ultratop.be/nl/certifications.asp?year=2011 --Meluvseveryone (talk) 04:39, 10 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

GA Review

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Reviewer: WikiRedactor (talk · contribs) 21:30, 23 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

General
Oh god I hate Roc Nation for rebooting Kylie's entire site. As for the Greek and Mexican chart ones, it says that these sites are under construction, so perhaps Hung Medien is doing something with them --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 12:31, 24 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • I see some inconsistent date formatting in the references, can you please abbreviate or write them all out in the same way (your choice)?
I have corrected it. There were two problems caused by addition of two citations I do not remember adding.
  • I don't think the provided external links are necessary for this article, it appears that external links for album articles are limited to Discogs or are not included at all.
I removed them all together --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 12:31, 24 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Structure
  • I think that renaming "Songs" as "Composition" or "Musical styles and lyrics" (like in She Wolf) would make its scope clearer.
  • I'd pull "Singles" out into its own section before "Release and promotion", since it's large enough to be its own heading.
  • I would rename "Chart performance" as "Commerical performance" so it isn't so similar to the "Charts" section that follows.
  • Can you add a "Release history" section with release dates from major markets (Australia, U.K., U.S., etc.) Even though the article says it was released worldwide on July 5, my iTunes in the U.S. says that it was released here on July 2, so I would imagine that the specific day fluctuated a bit in a few other countries.
Infobox
  • Please use the {{duration}} template for the length.
  • For the album chronology, can you use the {{ubl}} template?
  • For the singles' release dates, can you use the {{start date}} template?
Done all --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 12:46, 24 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Introduction

I made some minor revisions to the introduction, although I decided to suggest some of the larger changes here for you to consider:

  • I think the layout of the first paragraph is good, although I was thinking that maybe the second paragraph could be critical/commercial reception and the third could be for singles/promotion?
  • Does Australian people need to be linked in the first sentence? Especially since Australia isn't an obscure country.
  • I think it's assumed that Parlophone is her record label, does that need to be specifically stated?
  • "Although successful at first, the sessions later became unproductive, leading to Minogue working instead with British electronic music producer Stuart Price, who was enlisted as the executive producer of the album." Maybe this could be reworded like "Although successful at first, the sessions later became unproductive; Minogue then began working with British electronic music producer Stuart Price, who became the record's executive producer."
  • I think that "narrowly missing the top ten" is a little redundant since you already mentioned the track's specific peak.
Background and production

I made some minor revisions to this section, although I decided to suggest some of the larger changes here for you to consider:

  • Can you make the quote box 25%? I think this might look nicer in the article, so it doesn't stick out so much into the actual paragraph.
  • Can you elaborate a little bit more on the introspection X was criticized for lacking?
  • Maybe you can replace the term "later on" with something like "in retrospect" for a more encyclopedic tone.
  • Can you find the name of the specific author that commented in Popjustice? If that's not available, something like "a writer for Popjustice" would suffice.
Songs
  • Aside from some minor grammatical fixes I made myself, my only comment here would be that I don't think the statue picture is needed.
Release and promotion
  • In the first part of the section, I took care of one instance of overlinking myself, and I don't see anything else to address.
Singles
  • Is there a particular reason why critics had such a change in heart with "Better Than Today" after it became a single?
They are too moody perhaps --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 13:17, 24 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Critical reception
  • This section seems pretty large by comparison with similar sections in other albums' articles, maybe because its only two paragraphs are very long. Can you break them each down into a couple paragraphs, and maybe remove/relocate the picture, so it looks a little more manageable in size?
I have condensed it a bit, and sorted out in the order - positive, mixed, and mixed-to-negative. --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 14:49, 24 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
  •   Done up until this point (I accidentally removed this comment that WonderBoy1998 left in an earlier revision.)
Commercial performance
  • I took care of a few minor grammatical fixes, and I have no other comments to raise for this section.
Track listing
  • Could you make a note that the credits were adapted from the liner notes of Aphrodite?
Charts
  • Looks good to me!
Certifications
  • This section is also in great shape!
Release history
  • Same here!

Like all of your articles, the spot-checking went smooth as ever, and after the couple comments I've added above are addressed, I'll have no issue promoting the article! WikiRedactor (talk) 21:26, 24 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thank you very much for the review, comments, and help! You started the review just before it was to enter the backlog! The issues have been addressed :) --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 05:41, 25 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
My pleasure, I'm glad that I could help! With all of the comments addressed, I am going to go ahead and pass the article. Great work! WikiRedactor (talk) 21:00, 25 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
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