Talk:An Airman's Letter to His Mother

Merge of Vivian Rosewarne

I am proposing that recently created article Vivian Rosewarne be merged here. This is to avoid duplication and to follow the approach set out in WP:ONEEVENT. If the merge goes ahead this article will have to change to cover not just the film but also the history of the letter outside of the film and a little history about Rosewarne himself. If anybody thinks this is inappropriate then please feel free to make alternative suggestions. --DanielRigal (talk) 22:42, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't think they need to be merged, they are really about quite different events, Rosewarne and his death and the film based on the letter he left. Just cross-reference them fully with a link from this article to the article about Rosewarne -- SteveCrook (talk) 01:55, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

My concern is that Rosewarne might not be notable enough, as an individual, to justify a biographical article of his own. What do you think? --DanielRigal (talk) 08:42, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Well he had a film made about a letter he wrote to his Mum, and that letter was published in multiple editions. So he's a published author and the originator of a film script. Isn't that notable enough? -- SteveCrook (talk) 19:06, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Calling him a published author or scriptwriter seems to be stretching it. Surely he wrote one letter (never intended for publication) and that inspired all the other stuff. He is certainly notable for the letter but I am not sure what else. The fact that all his fame occurred posthumously is an indication that this might be a WP:ONEEVENT scenario. I agree that it is borderline. Maybe the painting is a separate aspect? It shows some interest in him separate from the letter.

Anyway, I am not going to push this. Lets leave things as they are for now and see if anybody else has any opinions on the proposed merge. --DanielRigal (talk) 19:34, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

I agree that on his own Rosewarne was not notable enough, but combining his biographical article with the film article works well so i have done it, nobody objected wildly. If it isn't to your liking say so and revert it. Unfortunately the issue with references has also transfered. but I am unable to fix it. Help anyone?Petebutt (talk) 19:07, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

On this day

The article has a paragraph starting On this day Winston Churchill announced, in his "This was their finest hour" speech to the House of Commons.... But on which day? The only dates mentioned up to that point in the article are the date when Rosewarne died, 30 May and the date when the letter was published in The Times and that is only given as June 1940. Was the letter published on the same day that Churchill made that speech (18 June 1940)? If it was then that's a good coincidence, if it wasn't then that paragraph should be removed -- SteveCrook (talk) 02:51, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the letter was published on 18 June 1940. But is the reference to Churchill's speech really relevant? The speech is about the start of the Battle of Britain. Rosewarne, and most British bomber crews, didn't take much of a part in that battle -- SteveCrook (talk) 02:55, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

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