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The history part is my handywork, none of it is copied from anywhere. I've been a personal friend with the musicians of the band since early/mid 80's and thus know for a fact it to be true. I don't know about the verifiability of the early stages, since it is not been discussed anywhere, that I know of anyway. So everything that needs to be clarified, please ask and I will try to do so. --Shrike 17:39, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Good work! I've rewritten some of the language in the history section - hopefully it will be a little clearer now. I think the history section needs expanding some more though, and if you know about it personally then that'll be a great help. Perhaps some more on the middle few albums, and what happened about the bad record deal? At the moment there is quite a jump in time.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by SeventyThree (talk • contribs) 02:33, 15 April 2006 (UTC).

This needs to be changed for the obvious reasons:

The search for a new frontman proved no easy task. In the end, Amorphis found the right person through word of mouth: Tomi Joutsen (Sinisthra), a powerful, multi-faceted singer with breathtaking on-stage charisma. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.130.139.223 (talk) 02:37, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I changed the ending to make it sound more professional. Everyone working on music articles, please PLEASE remember that you are not writing an advertisement for the band (unless you are actually someone from the band or record label, in which case don't bother, it will be deleted anyway). Keep the writing neutral and leave soaring adjectives like "powerful", "uncompromising", and such out, or music articles will never get taken seriously here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.116.27.11 (talk) 01:30, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Wow I can't believe I never bothered to read this article before, it was full of POV problems. It had so much praise and weasel words, definately inappropiate for an encyclopedia. I went ahead and removed the major POV problems but the article still needs some work. Wikipedia is not the place to exalt your favorite bands people. Also I removed external links which don't comply with WP:EL. --Leon Sword 07:06, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Genre

Why nobody can't remind right that amorphis were never doom. They have just doom influences in their early works, but Elegy have definitely nothing to do with doom. I delete doom from this article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.114.144.82 (talk) 10:12, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

I absolutely agree.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nothingagainst (talk • contribs) 10:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC).

Yeah, and looking at both edit histories, it appears you 'two' agree on a remarkably similar (almost identical in fact) group of bands. Agreeing with yourself is not a consensus. The Kinslayer 10:10, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

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Doom metal confusion with Amorphis?

Haha..Who the hell is again described Amorphis as doom metal? Since the had influences ranging from the Doom metal in 3 first album, but it's not reason to called them as doom metal. BTW all albums after Tales from the Thousand Lakes are pure prog metal and nothing to do with Doom metal!!! I think this who are putting doom metal link to the Amorphis article are'nt even know what the hell its. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.20.146 (talk) 09:05, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Provide a source. Relevant sources disagree with you. Your opinion is not enough. Garret Beaumain 12:22, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Doom metal.com do not listed Amorphis as doom metal. Then there is one relevant source, that agree with myself. You definitely can't saying, that relevant sources disagree with me at all. And why the hell you are citing Metal Archives?? Actually, they are not relevant source!!! Definitely Amorphis never became Modern rock band and initially Amorphis was death metal NOT prog or death/doom!! They really became into went on prog metal. Listen to Disment of Souls, The Karelian Isthmus and Privilege of Evil, by yourself because those sounds nothing like progressive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.20.146 (talk) 18:15, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

• Still there are so many sources that cite them as Doom Metal (and I personally agree, early albums were in Doom vein), and even 18 exclamation marks can't change it.

Genres must be: Death Metal, Doom Metal, Progressive Metal. That's what relevant and that's the perfect compromise.

PS. it was not I who added this strange "modern rock" (I've never heard of such a genre). Garret Beaumain 05:55, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Definately not Progressive, by the early records!! Later Amorphis became totaly prog metal band. And still keep in the mind only true defining source for doom metal-music is only Doom metal.coupid the adding the doom metal link to the genre box. And still only Doom Metal.com, can define what band is doom and what is fucking not!!! Im!!

OK i last listened their early three albums and they are pretty death/doomy, but simply doom metal (early)???? Simply doom would be bands including Candlemass, Cathedral, Black Sabbath, St. Vitus, Reverend Bizarre, Solitude Aeternus, wich early Amorphis definitely, does'nt sound like. Death/Doom, no Simply Doom!

I've nothing bad (or rather hurting) to saying for you, but youre just halfdeaf IMO. Amorphis were never doom at all, only they had an doom influenced riffs early on. Listen to it, because it's not that SLOWER, than the typical doom metal scene's band's music is. Also this article says, straigh death, then its very stupid the adding the doom metal link to the genrebox. And still only Doom Metal.com can define, what band is doom and what is fucking not!!! I removed doom metal link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.20.146 (talk) 17:07, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

• Most of sources agree that early Amorphis was a Death/Doom act, and modern Amorphis is a progressive act, so there was no reason for hysteria. Doom metal.com does not own the copyright on Death/DOom tag. Garret Beaumain (talk) 16:04, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I would think that there older stuff fit a pagan metal style??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.63.116.221 (talk) 02:37, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

It would seem that any argument over the incusion of death/doom is over with the addition of a reliable source in the form of Rockdetector. No other reliable sources have been provided (Metal Observer and Doom-Metal.com have been mentioned but do not meet WP:RS. Feel free to add (but not to remove) further genres with sources. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 21:39, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

september and november of what year?

It says that Amorphis went on tour in September to support Silent waters and will finish in November. What years are these? Sep2008-nov2009? Sep2007-Nov2009? Or is it just outdated and did the tour already finish? If so was it 07-08 or 08-08? you get the picture, we need to update that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.198.113.60 (talk) 20:30, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Title of last subsection in history

I would just like to mention that The Beginning of Times and present subsection is quite contradictory would you think? It's quite funny even though it's the way it's supposed to be. Sorry just had to mention that haha. p.s. Amorphis needs to release another album for this to seem less ridiculous. Come on Amorphis! --108.14.108.18 (talk) 02:04, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Amorphis discography

Support split -Discography section is lengthy and should be split to a new article entitled Amorphis discography. Thoughts? --Jax 0677 (talk) 01:57, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

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Timeline: lead vs. harsh vocals

Hi, ok so first thing, both are "lead" so preferably you should call them "clean" and "harsh" (or "growl"), instead of "lead" and "harsh"
Secondly, the current timeline shows two wrong things:

1. Timeline showing Tomi K doing clean vocals until just before Elegy. Not true I think. Unless he did Ville Tuomi's (guest singer on Tales) clean parts on LIVE shows (which I've never heard), this part should be marked as "harsh" only (thick line)
2. Pasi beginning to do both clean/harsh vocals simultaneously only AFTER Elegy and only AFTER Tomi K stopped doing harsh vocals. Also not true. They shared harsh vocal duties on Elegy. A few examples:

• Against Widows (bridge section growl is done by Pasi - can be seen in music video)
• Cares (chorus growl is also done by Pasi)

Pasi's growl has a bit more melody to it while Tomi K's is very guttural and lacking a specific key (put it this way: it's hard to transcribe). So it's quite easy to distinguish the two.

I would correct the timeline per below:

Timeline

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.60.100.34 (talk) 20:22, 9 June 2020 (UTC)