Talk:Amanda Villepastour

This is a good article about her but embedded in the middle of it is the complete history of a band. We only need the stuff about her. Victuallers (talk) 21:25, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

• You should read the article more carefully. It includes the complete history of her involvement in a band she has said was her band, until she was apparently forced out in 1987 – the band then basically fell apart, but was revived in 2005 and continues to exist to this day – without her. Bahnfrend (talk) 04:25, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Additionally, there is mentioned several time that she played both manuals of a 2-manual synthesizer. Nowhere in the videos is there a 2-manual synth. "Without You" did have 2 manuals visible, but because it was 2 synths. I can't tell the bottom, but the top is a single-manual Roland Jupiter-8, and in "Maybe Only I Dream" there is only 1 synth in the video, and while I didn't get a good look at it, it appears to be a Roland Juno series.

I don't know what all this claptrap about a 2-manaul synth is about; the only "common" 2 manual synth out there was the Prophet-10 by Sequential Circuits, and there isn't one to be seen in either of these videos. Joe Gerardi (talk) 20:06, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 00:08, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

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• ... that in the 1980s, Amanda Villepastour (née Vincent), now an ethnomusicologist at Cardiff University, was the keyboardist in Australian new wave band Eurogliders? Source: [https://afropop.org/articles/amanda-villepastour-interview-2 Afropop interview: Ned Sublette interviewed Amanda Villepastour, researcher and lecturer at Cardiff University in Wales ... Under the name Amanda Vincent, she was a pop music keyboardist before becoming an ethnomusicologist. ... "I did a degree in composition and went straight into the pop music industry–first with my own band, called Eurogliders ... and then I moved to the U.K. in 1987 ..."
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Created by Bahnfrend (talk). Self-nominated at 23:24, 20 January 2022 (UTC). * Review in progress Going to remove the band history as they have their own article. Victuallers (talk) 21:21, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: * First, I'm assuming Victuallers review was withdrawn, as it has been stricken, and it has been 10 days. If I misunderstood, my apologies.

• Second - Wow! What an article! Long, well written, thorough, engaging ... I'd say it could be GA quality (with one minor quibble, below). And all written in one pass? Amazing!
• Sourcing .... ehhh .... that's the quibble. Almost all the nontrivial sources aren't about Villepastour, they're by Villepastour. Like the interview you're using for the hook - those are her own words, the interviewer isn't vouching for them. The remaining ones are blogs, a Who's Who entry (which I can't see, but suspect might be an entry of a large list; WP:RSNP calls it debatable), other database entries, and that's about it, really. I can barely see any, indepth coverage by reliable sources that are independent of the subject - maybe the Phoenix New Times article, but even that's not really about her as such. Honestly, I worry about whether this article would survive WP:AFD. Yes, this article is simultaneously in danger of being marked a WP:GA and deletion - hard to imagine, but there it is. The quality is such that I'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt in this case, but worry. I'd hate to lose this one. If you can find a good indepth independent reliable source, that would do wonders for my peace of mind. Book or newspaper or magazine article that's more than a few paragraphs about her and that she or her employer didn't write? If I missed one or two among the others, I will be very happy, as the article quality is, again, wonderful. GRuban (talk) 21:42, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@GRuban: Thanks for the review. I actually drafted the article in stages, but saved it on my computer as a draft and then published it only when I was happy with the final result. As to the sources by Villepastour herself, I understand that these can be relied upon per WP:BLPSELFPUB, ie they fit the five criteria listed there. The fact that an independent website (and radio program) decided to interview her and publish its interview assists in establishing notability (profiles of people published in independent publications are often based upon similar interviews, but are set out in narrative rather than question and answer form). Similar comments apply to the Who's Who in Popular Music book. Arguably, the Afropop Worldwide publication alone is suffient to establish notability of this subject - see Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Criteria for musicians and ensembles, item 12: "Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network." (and note the following comment in the article about Afropop: "The program is distributed by Public Radio Exchange (PRX) to over a hundred radio stations in the United States. It is also heard in Europe and Africa.") Additionally, the subject is mentioned multiple times in the former bandmate's autobiography (which is neither self nor vanity published). Yes, the Phoenix newspaper article is not specifically about her, but is independent coverage specifically naming her and describing her then activities as an ethnomusicologist. The same comments apply to the other newspaper articles about the Museum. Yes, some of the other sources are potentially a problem but nevertheless appear to be completely consistent with the interview, Who's Who and bandmate book. The music websites self published by music fans are broadly equivalent to the pre-internet fanzines that used to be similarly self published and reasonably reliable. The databases are commonly used as sources for other existing articles - I checked before I published the article. You might also want to have a quick look at other existing articles about ethnomusicologists that are generally less comprehensively sourced than this article, eg Category:British ethnomusicologists. I'm happy to respond further to any further comments. Bahnfrend (talk) 01:03, 2 February 2022 (UTC)