Talk:Also Sprach Zarathustra (2001)
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I don't believe Deodato's 1972 recording was used in a 1968 film, but it's likely that the "(2001)" in the title of his version alludes to the film, and possibly even attempts to brandjack it. jnestorius(talk) 14:59, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
- It's "likely" it alludes to the film? What else could it possibly refer to? (Nothing) Even now, the Strauss piece (I guess) is popularly referred to more often as the Theme from 2001 than by its name. I imagine that was even more the case in the years immediately following 1968. 110.20.157.59 (talk) 03:43, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
- Actually the CTI All-Stars had used an arrangement by Bob James of the Strauss piece, for almost a year, it can be heard at the start of the live from the Hollywood Bowl album. That's how it came to be used on the Deodato album. I'll try to find suitable reference.
- The "2001" in the Title of Deodato's adaptation of the Strauss piece is actually part of the Song Title (see the "Master" link at Discogs, where you can look at an image on the back of the Deodato's LP Prelude). So, in that sense, it is NOT misleading to include 2001 in the Article/Page name, even though it was Released in Jan-73 (for LP) and Recorded in 1972 (4 years after Stanley Kubrick's inclusion of the Classical version in the 1968 film, 2001: A Space Odyssey). I've seen the 1979 film Being There[1], where Deodato's song appears, and its use there is absolutely hilarious... just as in the "Dawning" or "Emergence of Man" in 2001: A Space Odyssey, the protagonist of Being There emerges from being a "shut-in" but he's stepping out onto the city streets during the '70s, so the Funky-fied/Jazz version of the song totally fits what's happening on-screen. Hope that helps clear up any confusion. GreyElfGT (talk) 22:05, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Being There (1979) Soundtrack". IMDB. Retrieved 26 September 2020.
Grammy Year
editThe award was actually for the 1973 Grammy for best pop instrumental, which was awarded in 1974."16TH ANNUAL GRAMMY AWARDS (1973) - I came here to change that.Cathcam (talk) 23:47, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Whose bass solo
editThe (short) bass solo after the first head/theme/melody is everywhere referred to as a Stanley Clarke solo. But it sounds to me like Ron Carter's acoustic bass, (maybe overdubbed) over much a softer electric bass solo. The licks the bass plays are what Ron plays, plus it has the low C extension which Ron started using in the 1970s (to play down to a super-low C), which is pretty rare; I don't think I've ever heard another jazz bass player use one. I'm not familiar with Stanley's double bass playing, but I'm very familiar with Ron's, and it sure sounds like Ron to me. 110.20.157.59 (talk) 03:50, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Now I read "Then, I asked Ron Carter to bring to the session that bass which has the extra string in C,” tells Deodato." ... Ah, it's just that Ron has been turned up so much in the mix, and Stanley down so much, that Stanley's solo is barely audible above Ron's bass, so what Ron plays sounds like 'the solo'. 110.20.157.59 (talk) 04:13, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Joel Whitburn
editThe cites (7 & 8) are pretty much useless as they link only to his name, not to any kind of chart. AMCKen (talk) 08:33, 1 November 2022 (UTC)