Talk:Alma Mater (Dartmouth College)

Traditions in mass recitation

Is there a reason for this edit?: http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Men_of_Dartmouth&diff=prev&oldid=35224818 . Those are very common additions to the song (in fact, I've only heard the 'bleh' dying addition maybe twice, while shouting 'Hail!' is one that has happened at every singing of it I've been to), and I think the point that very few students know the middle verse is quite useful for people not from Dartmouth. I'm a current student and a legacy, and I didn't even know there was a middle verse until I saw this article. I'll revert the edit if no one gives a reason. --_└ ^Smith120bh/_TALK ^┐ 00:22, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Maybe some context would be useful -- a dozen years ago, the bleh and the blowing wind (and the turning away -- is any current student really opposed to coeducation?) simply did not exist. The shouted year was common, as was the shouted "traditions" line, although there was also a counter-movement pointing out that the shouting was associated with anti-coeducation or pro-mascot sentiment. --Jonny.Triumph 21:01, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I've removed them all (even though I think I was the one who added them a long time ago), because they are simply unverifiable. Maybe a citation can be found for the shouting the class year, one of the more common traditions. Dylan (talk) 20:52, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Title and focus of article

This seems to be an article about Men of Dartmouth masquerading as an article about the Alma Mater. The lyrics of a Hovey poem are pretty trivial; Wikipedia users are far more likely to want to learn about the (current, actual, official) school song and its history, which includes Men of Dartmouth. --Jonny.Triumph 21:04, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, the current lyrics having been composed in the 1980s are likely under copyright and therefore unreproducible (Hovey's being pre-1923 puts them in the public domain). I agree that we should at least link to them and definitely discuss them, but we can't include them as text. Dylan (talk) 20:52, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Dartmouth encourages reproduction of the 1980s lyrics at every graduation ceremony and permitted their reproduction in the Kreiger article cited in this Wikipedia article. The 1980s changes themselves are not copyrightable, and modifying a public-domain song probably would not put the whole song under ownership of Dartmouth at the time. If the current song is not in the public domain, then the reproduction of some verses in this context should qualify as a fair use.

--Truthier06 (talk) 17:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

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