Talk:Alfredo Marte

Marte not Marté

Diacritics in spanish is simple, and Marte is a very common Last Name in the Dominican Republic and around Latin America. Marte is written always without accent. User Yankees10 is wrong when reverting the deletion of the redirect. It should be fixed. In the External links of Alfredo Marte, neither of them appear to be Alfredo Marté. Osplace 03:32, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

So I guess Starling Marté, Andy Marté, Dámaso Marté are also wrong too.--Yankees10 03:46, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes they are. Is not the single ones, every individual, is a genaral rule. They are all wrong. Osplace 14:26, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes they all wrong. I have added Spanish sources for 3 above, edited lede accordingly, and suggest they be moved [back] to Starling Marte, Andy Marte, Dámaso Marte. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:47, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Requested Move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 21:53, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

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Alfredo Marté → Alfredo Marte – I made this move by request, and it was reverted, so time to discuss. Justification for move: per WP:COMMONNAME: "Wikipedia... prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources. This includes usage in the sources used as references for the article." All three of the article's references, and all the first page of Google hits have him as "Marte" with no accent. JohnCD (talk) 23:29, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

• Support - Not because of WP:COMMONNAME which is about not using Alfredo Marte's maternal name (which isn't in the lede but example is Dámaso Marte not Dámaso Marte Sabiñón) or middle name (Andy Marte not Andy Manuel Marte) and has nothing to do with Dominican accents, and also not because of English sources (since sports sources invariably fail WP:RS for Spanish names), but because Spanish sources show the correct name to be "Marte." This an example of why BLPs should have at least one local language source. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:09, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
• Support, per ESPN, Arizona Republic, and Major League Baseball. It often happens that the name of a person, place, or thing is different in one language than it is in another. To argue that only Spanish-language sources should be consulted is to turn WP:UE on its head. Kauffner (talk) 15:50, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

No WP:UE just needs restoring to pre-banned editor Dolovis' edit, then it wouldn't be at war with 1000s of article contributors. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:26, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

As I am sure you already know, a more modest version of what you are proposing failed to get consensus in an RfC. Kauffner (talk) 10:03, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

As above.In ictu oculi (talk) 10:20, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

• Support Since per the spanish sources Marte doesn't have an accent anyway.--Yankees10 17:01, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

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Following the move

...does anyone feel like correcting the same spelling error that occurs at least at Arizona Diamondbacks, All-Star Futures Game, List of current Major League Baseball team rosters, 2012 in baseball, and 2013 Arizona Diamondbacks season, and probably at many other articles that don't link here? Andrewa (talk) 22:02, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

He was actually only named in articles 2 and 5 of that list, but I've done it. Nice to have no aggravation and xenophobic harassment over spelling a foreigner's name correctly for once. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:57, 17 November 2012 (UTC)