This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Medieval Scotland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Medieval Scotland on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Medieval ScotlandWikipedia:WikiProject Medieval ScotlandTemplate:WikiProject Medieval ScotlandMedieval Scotland articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Middle Ages, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Middle Ages on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Middle AgesWikipedia:WikiProject Middle AgesTemplate:WikiProject Middle AgesMiddle Ages articles
This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women's History, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Women's history and related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Women's HistoryWikipedia:WikiProject Women's HistoryTemplate:WikiProject Women's HistoryWomen's History articles
This article is related to the Pritzker Military Museum & Library WikiProject. Please copy assessments of the article from the most major WikiProject template to this one as needed.Pritzker Military LibraryWikipedia:GLAM/PritzkerTemplate:WikiProject Pritzker-GLAMPritzker Military Library-related articles
Latest comment: 17 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion
This woman does not appear to have been countess of Moray. Moray reverted to the crown in terms of the grant of 1312. The earldom was vacant until the Scone parliament of 1372 granted it to John Dunbar. She was, though, countess-consort of March, but I don't know if that entitles her to be called "Countess of March" on wiki. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ)23:09, 30 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
She herself boasted to coming to be "Heir of the earldom of Moray" in the situation where her last brother was threatened to be executed. I have read the actual citation of hers from a history book. It is not important what the later judicial reciontructions say who have been de jure peers and who not, the important thing is what they were in their own day. We do not erase a bunch of Brotherton and Mowbray earls of Norfolk devoid of the title, despite of the infamous verdict of the privileges committee in the Norfolk case. Marrtel05:09, 3 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
It is said that Agnes and Sir Patrick Dunbar had a daughter Mary (or Margaret) who married as his first wife William, 1st Earl of Douglas, and Mar. I will try and find more on this. Two other references are: The History of Dunbar, by James Miller, Dunbar, 1830, p.60; and The Royal Families of England, Scotland, and Wales, with their Descendants, by John, and John Bernard Burke. London, 1848, Vol.1, Pedigree CCII. David Lauder08:51, 3 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
I do not think the Earl of Dunbar/March was Governor of Berwick castle. In 1330-1, "Domino Roberto de Lawedre" of the Bass was described as Custodian or Keeper of the Marches and the Castle of Berwick-upon-Tweed, when he received a fee attributed to those positions, at Pentecost, of £33.6s.8p, plus a similar amount. He is described elsewhere as Sheriff of Berwick, for which he received a further payment. See: The Exchequer Rolls of Scotland editors: John Stuart, LL.D., & Geo.,Burnett, Lyon King of Arms, vol.1, 1264-1359, Edinburgh, 1878, pps:279, 313, 339 & 399. He was followed by the well-recorded Sir Alexander Seton as Governor of Berwick, responsible for the defence of the town, who was in situ during the Battle of Halidon Hill. 2A00:23C4:B607:CF00:BC72:572E:4A20:50D (talk) 15:36, 31 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
