Talk:African-American organized crime
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Problem with the title
editThe problem with the title African-American organized crime is that it is ambiguous, it appears to link African Americans with the notion of "organized crime" implying guilt by association. A better heading may be African Americans and organized crime or some other more neutral heading you may wish to suggest. I have tried to do the same with Jewish-American organized crime by changing it to American Jews and organized crime but I was reverted, see Talk:Jewish-American organized crime#Recent page move. Only three articles in Category:Organized crime groups have this kind of "title": African-American organized crime; Greek-American organized crime and Jewish-American organized crime. So will there be 134 articles in the future about "Foo organized crime" for all 134 categories in Category:American people by ethnic or national origin and indeed for every class of human on Earth without hypocrisy??? Note how there is no article for Italian American organized crime as it's simply and correctly called Mafia. African Americans and Jewish Americans are not connected with organized crime as "representatives" or "symbols" of their race or religion. Every group has its criminals. So what else is new. Sure there are "gangs" just as there are Category:Mafia gangs in Category:Mafia groups (and by the way, if there are such African American or Jewish American gangs or groups then name them, but let's not leave it as if "guilt" is being laid at the door of all African Americans or Jewish Americans etc), but the titles African-American organized crime or Jewish-American organized crime makes it sound, way, way bigger than it is in reality, and could easily slip into racism and antisemitism if not handled in a scrupulously WP:NPOV manner 100% of the time! The job of Wikipedia should not be to magnify the problem which is called POV editing, but to depict things accurately as they are. Please add your views. Thank you, IZAK 04:34, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
- I cannot believe this is serious. I did a search with "African-American" on Wikipedia and there are 47,895 hits. There is African-American music, history, literature, quarterbacks, musicians, etc. etc. It seems to me that it is a perfectly common term to indicate that African-Americans are part of society and active in many areas, unfortunately in organized crime as well. - Mafia Expert 20:09, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
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Move discussion in progress
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Move to African-Americans and organized crime?
editI feel like this page should be moved to "African-Americans and organized crime". Like a previous user said, the name creates a bad link. While he was discounted on the "African-American" part being legitimate, I think the rest of his complaint still has some merit. However, this seems like a contentious topic and I'd rather not start drama. ☢️Plutonical☢️ᶜᵒᵐᵐᵘⁿᶦᶜᵃᵗᶦᵒⁿˢ 03:58, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: Crime and Violence
editThis article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 28 August 2023 and 15 December 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): HiggyPiggyZ (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Alexafrangella.
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