Talk:Abner Doubleday

Denika

My name is Denika Childs. Abner Doubleday is my great great uncle.everyone always goes on about how he wasnt really the one who created baseball.of,His cousin (my grandmother)Colleen Catherine Doubleday(now Rafuse)has pictures,war papers stating exactly where he died,ant other things of his. If you would like to have any contact with us, please email me at denika_butterfly@hotmail.com Thank You, Denika Childs

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So which side are you on? Is the Mills Commission wrong?

Made some changes, put in the Mills commission. Put up some suggestions on why or why not.

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reversion of February 10, 2007

I have reverted the recent edits for the following three problems. Please keep these guidelines in mind for future edit attempts.

1. The lead paragraph is supposed to be a summary of the remaining article and you cannot introduce new material (such as Cartwright and Congress) there unless it appears and is cited in the main body of the article.
2. When an article is footnoted, you cannot break up footnoted paragraphs without adjusting the footnotes.
3. The statements "there is considerable evidence to dispute this claim" and "there is no other evidence to support this claim" are not equivalent. The remainder of that paragraph supports the former form, not the latter.

Hal Jespersen 17:48, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Baseball assessment

I just assessed this article for Wikiproject Baseball, and I wanted to add a couple notes explaining my evaluation. First, I mainly judged the sections relevant to this project, and my evaluation shouldn't be seen as a reflection on the military portions of the article. Also, the only thing keeping me from rating it a B is that, while the article details why Doubleday probably isn't the inventor of baseball, it never really gets into the Mills Comission's reasons for thinking he was. If they were basing their conclusions on myth rather than actual evidence, that should be included. Other than that, it's well-written and well-sourced. --Djrobgordon 07:58, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Unintelligible sentence

I can't understand the first sentence of the baseball section:

"Although Doubleday was a competent in combat general with experience in many important Civil War battles, the lore of baseball credits Doubleday with inventing the game..."

It uses "competent" as a noun, which it can't be, and I don't understand the words after it: "in combat general with...," so I don't know how to fix the sentence. Kidlittle (talk) 00:50, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

The word "in" was mistakenly added. I have fixed this, but have reworded the sentence more generally to improve it. Thanks for catching the error. Hal Jespersen (talk) 01:26, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Doubleday Hill Monument

I removed some language suggesting that the Doubleday baseball myth was widespread in the 19th century, citing the 1897 monument as evidence. As far as I can tell, the monument itself has nothing to say about baseball; the myth is only mentioned on a sign near the monumnet, which self-evidently dates from a much more recent period. The myth itself does not appear to have appeared until 1907.RandomCritic (talk) 03:05, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Have you given any thought to “home plate” being shaped like Fort Sumter? The US park Service at the fort said he organized baseball games for his men there. 2605:59C8:3182:A200:AD45:5C39:8CEF:E1A5 (talk) 17:59, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

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48 Hours?

'Doubleday's indecision as a commander in the war resulted in his uncomplimentary nickname "Forty-Eight Hours."' The above statement is puzzling as their is no prior or following information related to his 'indecision.' In fact, almost all of the other material in the entry speaks to Doubleday's skill and bravery as a commander. 2606:6000:624C:CE00:BCE3:3EC9:153D:A752 (talk) 21:21, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

I thought the exact same thing. The "48 hour" slur, though historically interesting, should be somehow explained and supported, or it must be removed. It is sometimes useful to comb the edit history and see when it was added. Possibly it was explained formerly, and in revision the explanation was lost. I've seen that happpen. rags (talk) 13:56, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Uniforms

I remember reading a story as a child about the man in early years who decided to provide uniforms for his baseball team, and came up with elaborate suits, different for each player position on the field, resulting in chaos during play. The result was new uniforms which all looked the same. I first thought the designer was Abner Doubleday (it's been 50 years, and I really don't remember who it was). Albert Spalding (baseball) would make more sense, as a supplier of equipment, except that one would expect him to know better than to make such an error, with his years on the mound. On the other hand, Doubleday is known to have requisitioned ball equipment for his troops. Maybe he got involved in providing for a favorite team after the war. I know I read it, and the name was one of those names ... I don't believe it to be an apocryphal story, but then I have no source to cite. Anyone else remember? rags (talk) 14:03, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Article issues

This is listed as a B-class article. The criteria states, The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations. It has reliable sources, and any important or controversial material which is likely to be challenged is cited. The "Namesakes and honors" section has an inline "citation needed" tag dated June 2019 that needs correcting or a possible article class reassessment.

The external links section needs trimming per WP:ELPOINTS #3. -- Otr500 (talk) 16:15, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Say what?

... he is said to have provisioned balls and bats for the men.

– Quite clear, no doubt, somehow. – Sca (talk) 16:21, 6 January 2024 (UTC)