Talk:Abdel Fattah el-Sisi

Latest comment: 20 days ago by Dylam X in topic Should we be referring to Sisi as Dictator?

Human Rights Watch as a source

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The allegation that 'elections are not free and fair' in the lead is only sourced in a HRW report. Does this qualify as a wp:rs? Methinks not... Winchester2313 (talk) 05:29, 8 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

close the editing icon for public using

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you must close this icon because of this abuse 1Amar02 (talk) 06:55, 7 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Archive these discussions?

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Is it possible this talk page could get archived? Its very long. QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 19:11, 28 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Elsisi mother true name

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It is well documented through the American CNN ( Cable News Network) that the true name of Elsisi mother is : Malika Titani a Moroccan jew, and it was published on the website of CNN after the coup of 2013 in Egypt. Later on that page was edited and the name was changed. 2603:6000:D800:5344:68B7:7082:6724:1A4D (talk) 02:05, 8 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Persian Gulf

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Learn to respect others. There is no place on earth called the gulf. There is Persian Gulf. If Arabs disrespect us Persians by omitting the word Persian, we will change any names that has the name of Arabic countries in it. Respect others to be respected. Alavi313 (talk) 17:11, 23 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Name (in Arabic) spelt wrong

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The last letter of his name written in Arabic above the portrait photo on the right side is wrong. The last letter of Al-Sisi's name is ي, which is pronounced "y" or "ii". Here it is spelled with a ى (notice this letter is lacking the two dots below the main line). While looking similar, this letter is pronounced "aa". Effectively, the name spelt out here would read Al-Sisa. Have a look at the Arabic-language article to compare and confirm that the name (the title of the article) has the letter ي at the very end (the left-hand end), including the two dots.


I cannot correct this mistake myself due to the semi-protected status, as I don't have enough edits. Bvlampe (talk) 18:59, 23 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

i corrected it TheMostOfEkramy (talk) 12:08, 10 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2023

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Add citations to the last paragraph of the article (on personal life and public image) as it currently is unsubstantiated. Add formatting to the paragraph as it has random capitalisations and commas without a separation of sentences. MrXenon133 (talk) 20:36, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. You need to specify the changes you are requesting. If there are citations to be added, you need to provide them. RudolfRed (talk) 20:50, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Name

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Hi all,

When referring to the subject of this article by his last name, sometimes this article uses "el-Sisi" and sometimes it uses "Sisi" (without the el). It's my (limited) understanding of Arabic that we should be using "el-Sisi". However, if someone feels differently, I'm happy to discuss. Either way, I feel that we should be using all one or the other way. Would like other opinions before I edit. Apathyash (talk) 20:11, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

no dictator, all is good?

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Neither the lead or body refer to him as a dictator, despite sources doing so. The lead is also exceptionally keen on his actions, despite sources describing the brutality of his dictatorship.

This parts especially are of concern:

violent clashes between supporters of Morsi and security forces followed, culminating in the dispersal in August 2013 of pro-Morsi sit-ins which resulted in violent clashes that led to hundreds of deaths.

A massacre of political opponents becomes a series of unfortunate events. Then this:

On 26 March 2014, in response to calls from supporters to run for the presidency, Field Marshal el-Sisi retired from his military career and announced that he would run as a candidate in the 2014 presidential election.

Sounds like el-Sisi didn't even want to rule, he was asked to... Ridiculous. Cinemaandpolitics (talk) 16:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Should we be referring to Sisi as Dictator?

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So, it started with @Firecat93 editing the introduction to Sisi's page making it "Abd el-Fattah el-Sisi (born 19 November 1954) is an Egyptian politician, dictator and retired military officer who has been serving as the sixth and current president of Egypt since 2014". Hosni Mubarak who was for the record more authoritarian than Sisi, just has his introduction being described as just a politician. Firecat93's justification is that "Sisi is a military dictator. He should be described as an Egyptian politician, dictator, and retired military officer. Please see the Wikipedia pages of Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo, Augusto Pinochet, and Benito Mussolini as examples". I disagree with him because describing Sisi as an outright dictator does not have universal acceptance like for example Mussolini. Should we make Firecat93's edits permanent or should his edits reverted? Dylam X (talk) 20:27, 26 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

They should absolutelly not be reverted. This page has swamped in dictatorship apologism for long enough. There are extensive reliable sources that describe el-Sisi brutal ruling. Thank you @Firecat93 for working on fixing this.
P.S. If others dictators are not described as such we should fix that as well. Cinemaandpolitics (talk) 08:02, 27 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Please, to both editors @Dylam X and @Firecat93, develop a discussion here on the talk page on new sections, not through reversion comments, it makes it easier for other to chip in with their opinion. Cinemaandpolitics (talk) 14:42, 1 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
The issue had ended and both of us had reached a reasonable compromise. Thank you. Dylam X (talk) 20:28, 1 December 2024 (UTC)Reply