Talk:2002 World Snooker Championship

Qualifying

FYI

Non-members qualifying rounds at Harrogate on 17th-18th November 2001: 1st preliminary round: M Sajjad beat R Blackmore 5-0; G Lomax beat D Donovan 5-1; S Bevz wo JDD Nascit; D John beat P McLoughlin 5-4; M Selt beat J Burrett 5-1; L Payne beat E Hame 5-0

2nd preliminary round: S O’Neill beat M Sajjad 5-1; LP Bovis beat J Woods 5-4; A Duff beat P Metcalf 5-0; W Townsend beat H Le 5-0; G Lomax beat D Manley 5-3; N Heseltine beat S Welsby 5-0; W Holroyd beat A Dawber 5-2; T Mustafa beat P Ganley 5-4; K E beat J Carney 5-0; J Welsh beat R Corper 5-1; N Craycraft beat A Longley 5-3; M King wo M Azim; W Khan beat S Bevz 5-1; D John wo C West; M Selt beat B Valdimarsson 5-4; S Rowlings beat L Payne 5-0

3rd preliminary round: S O’Neill beat LP Bovis 5-0; W Townsend beat A Duff 5-3; G Lomax beat N Heseltine 5-2; T Mustafa beat W Holroyd 5-2; J Welsh beat K E 5-3; N Craycraft beat M King 5-4; D John beat W Khan 5-2; S Rowlings beat M Selt 5-3

Members qualifying rounds at Harrogate on 14th January 2002: 1st members round: J Greaves wo D Reynolds; F Fitzgerald beat W Townsend 5-3; N Craycraft beat N Spelman 5-4; G Lomax beat A Atkinson 5-3; T Mustafa beat D Singh 5-2; S O’Neill beat L Dodd 5-3; D John beat S Wilkes 5-2; B Kelly beat A Bassiri 5-0; S Rowlings beat P Stockwell 5-2; J Welsh beat P Gilchrist 5-2; J Mills beat A Ahmed 5-1

2nd members round: J Greaves beat D Mountjoy 5-4; F Fitzgerald wo P Moss; G Lomax beat N Craycraft 5-4; S O’Neill beat T Mustafa 5-3; D John beat NT Maher 5-3; B Kelly wo J Fitzmaurice; S Rowlings beat J Welsh 5-2; J Mills wo J O’Boye

Challenge Tour players qualifying rounds at Harrogate on 15th– 21st January: 1st pre-qualifying round: C Giagnacova beat R Jones 5-4; J Mills beat C Brooks 5-2; J Greaves beat A Massey 5-0; Del Smith beat K Palajin 5-0; P Weiguo beat F Fitzgerald 5-0; L Farebrother beat I Bullimore 5-2; S Ormerod wo D Lee; K Townsend beat V Harris 5-3; A Rosser beat S Prest 5-1; P Harper beat M Ganderton 5-2; S O’Neill beat K Chalmers 5-4; C Smith beat J Astley 5-4; D Hall beat M Carrington 5-2; S Rowlings beat D Athorn 5-0; S Wiwattrang beat B Kelly 5-0; G Lomax beat A Highfield 5-1; D John beat G Coppack 5-2; T Paling beat S Meakin 5-1; D Grimwood beat A Milliard 5-2

2nd pre-qualifying round: M Price beat C Giagnacovo 5-4; J Meara beat R Donkin 5-2; Stanley Murphy beat G Thomson 5-4; C Harrison beat L Da Griffa 5-3; D Clarke beat R Duut 5-1; G Lees beat M Aldridge 5-3; M Hallett beat J Mills 5-2; E Munro beat J Greaves 5-1; D McLellan beat B Fitzgerald 5-4; C Steadman beat L Richardson 5-3; K Fisher beat R Somauroo 5-2; R Day beat R Read 5-1; Del Smith beat P Cavney 5-0; K Broughton beat P Weiguo 5-1; E Manning beat L Farebrother 5-1; R James beat T Knowles 5-3; R McDonald beat G Pantall 5-3; D McGlinchey beat S Ormerod 5-2; S Mellish beat K Townsend 5-3; G Lee beat A Rosser 5-3; W Jones beat J Leadbetter 5-4; S MacKenzie beat I Preece 5-0; D Massey beat C Taylor 5-1; S Jogia beat M James 5-4; J Reynolds beat D Coles 5-2; K Johal beat D Walker 5-4; G Britton beat J Delaney 5-1; J Oenema beat N MacLachlan 5-1; S Harrison beat P Harper 5-1; M Bilclough beat J Smalley 5-2; J Gallagher beat C Shade 5-0; M Barnes beat M Pal 5-4; S O’Neill beat S Mazrocis 5-1; T Chappel beat K Chand 5-2; M Husnu beat B Garrett 5-1; S Bedford beat A Sohanpal 5-0; J Weston beat C Smith 5-2; D Hall beat A Neck 5-2; S Rowlings beat S Judd 5-3; G Conquest beat T McSorely 5-4; S Meghani wo J Barton; J Nelson beat S Mann 5-3; L Spick beat S Benie 5-1; R King beat N Selman 5-2; J Whitty beat Jin Long 5-4; S Roper wo M Fenton; B Cox beat G Chilcott 5-1; M Rhodes beat Adam Davies 5-4; M Wild beat P Sweeny 5-3; DB Gilbert beat C Roper 5-4; C Gilchreest beat G Martyn 5-0; K Burrows wo J Linehan; D Hackeson wo S Wiwattrang; S Lanigan beat M Tucker 5-3; J McBain beat D Sheehan 5-2; M Gould beat G Lomax 5-2; G O’Connor beat D John 5-3; T Paling beat D Lilley 5-3; W Saidler beat M Quinney 5-2; W Thorne beat D Grimwood 5-2; R Mills beat A Walker 5-1; I Brumby beat D Craggs 5-4; L Fernandez beat P Seaton 5-1; S Croft beat C MacGillivray 5-3

3rd pre-qualifying round: M Price beat J Meara 5-3; C Harrison beat Stanley Murphy 5-2; D Clarke beat G Lees 5-3; M Hallett beat E Munro 5-1; C Steadman beat D McLellan 5-1; R Day beat K Fisher 5-2; K Broughton beat Del Smith 5-1; E Manning beat R James 5-4; R McDonald beat D McGlinchey 5-2; S Mellish beat G Lee 5-2; S MacKenzie beat W Jones 5-3; S Jogia beat D Massey 5-1; J Reynolds beat K Johal 5-2; G Britton beat J Oenema 5-3; M Bilclough beat S Harrison 5-4; M Barnes beat J Gallagher 5-3; T Chappel beat S O’Neill 5-3; M Husnu beat S Bedford 5-2; J Weston beat D Hall 5-2; G Conquest beat S Rowlings 5-1; S Meghani beat J Nelson 5-2; L Spick beat R King 5-3; J Whitty beat S Roper 5-1; M Rhodes beat B Cox 5-1; DB Gilbert beat M Wild 5-4; C Gilchreest beat K Burrows 5-3; S Lanigan beat D Hackeson 5-4; M Gould beat J McBain 5-1; T Paling beat G O’Connor 5-3; W Thorne beat W Saidler 5-3; R Mills beat I Brumby 5-4; S Croft beat L Fernandez 5-1

4th pre-qualifying round: C Harrison beat M Price 5-4; D Clarke beat M Hallett 5-4; R Day beat C Steadman 5-4; K Broughton beat E Manning 5-4; S Mellish beat R McDonald 5-2; S Jogia beat S MacKenzie 5-3; J Reynolds beat G Britton 5-3; M Bilclough beat M Barnes 5-2; T Chappel beat M Husnu 5-4; J Weston beat G Conquest 5-3; L Spick beat S Meghani 5-1; J Whitty beat M Rhodes 5-3; DB Gilbert beat C Gilchreest 5-1; M Gould beat S Lanigan 5-1; W Thorne beat T Paling 5-1; S Croft beat R Mills 5-1

Final pre-qualifying round: D Clarke beat C Harrison 5-2; R Day beat K Broughton 5-3; S Jogia beat S Mellish 5-0; J Reynolds beat M Bilclough 5-1; J Weston beat T Chappel 5-1; L Spick beat J Whitty 5-2; M Gould beat DB Gilbert 5-2; S Croft beat W Thorne 5-3

Qualifying rounds at Telford International Centre, Telford, 11th – 16th February: 1st qualifying round: D Clarke beat B Salmon 10-5; R Day beat R Michael 10-5; S Jogia beat W Cooper 10-3; J Reynolds beat N Robertson 10-9; J Weston beat E Rhys Davies 10-1; L Spick beat A Mahitthi 10-5; C Butler beat M Gould 10-7; S Croft beat S Vaswani 10-9

2nd qualifying round: P Wykes beat D Clarke 10-4; M Street beat T Shaw 10-9; B Hawkins beat L Fisher 10-8; N Pearce beat N Sangnil 10-8; R Day beat P Phonbun 10-3; J Johnson beat R Walden 10-5; A Higginson beat A Rosa 10-5; N Walker beat L Meilleur 10-0; J Prince beat C Melling 10-7; W Brown beat S Jogia 10-6; J Reynolds beat T Jones 10-9; J Cundy beat K Maflin 10-7; PS Davison beat H Abernethy 10-6; A Bolsover wo S Lemmens; M Dziewaltowski beat K Poomjang 10-9; A Norman beat N Noppachorn 10-5; J Wallace beat A Robidoux 10-6; J Weston beat M Gray 10-8; S Kershaw beat S Storey 10-8; L Spick beat Philip Williams 10-7; M Couch beat C McBreen;10-1 K Helgason beat S Gill 10-7; R Hull beat C Butler 10-2; N Foulds beat A Borg 10-4; M Dunn beat S Croft 10-2; D McDonnell beat I Hurdman 10-4; M Selby beat T Ford 10-9; B Haneveer beat I Sargeant 10-5; Shaun Murphy beat E Henderson 10-5; A Gunnell beat R McLeod 10-6; B Pinches beat E Barker 10-3; L Simmonds beat J Read 10-6

3rd qualifying round: P Wykes beat M Street 10-5; B Hawkins beat N Pearce 10-5; R Day beat J Johnson 6-1 (Johnson pulled out due to eyesight problems); N Walker beat A Higginson 10-6; J Prince beat W Brown 10-9; J Reynolds beat J Cundy 10-6; A Bolsover beat Paul S Davison 10-3; A Norman beat M Dziewaltowski 10-7; J Weston beat J Wallace 10-2; S Kershaw beat L Spick 10-7; K Helgason beat M Couch 10-9; R Hull beat N Foulds 10-1; M Dunn beat D McDonnell 10-8; M Selby beat B Haneveer 10-8; Shaun Murphy beat A Gunnell 10-5; B Pinches beat L Simmonds 10-5

4th qualifying round: P Wykes beat P Lines10-4; S Pettman beat B Hawkins 10-6; R Day beat M Davis 10-8; J Birch beat N Walker 10-7; D Roe beat J Prince 10-2; G Greene beat J Reynolds 10-7; R Milkins beat A Bolsover 10-7; A Norman beat S James 10-6; A Carter beat J Weston 10-4; P Davies beat S Kershaw 10-5; K Helgason beat R Lawler 10-5; R Hull beat G Ponting 10-5; M Dunn beat L Walker 10-2; M Selby beat J Ferguson 10-6; Shaun Murphy beat N Dyson 10-7; B Pinches beat S Maguire 10-7

5th qualifying round: P Wykes beat B Jones 10-8; S Pettman beat B Morgan 10-5; M Campbell beat R Day 10-9; S Ali beat J Birch 10-6; D Roe beat J Michie 10-3; M Holt beat G Greene 10-7; R Milkins beat A Hicks 10-3; I McCulloch beat A Norman 10-3; D Morgan beat A Carter 10-7; P Davies beat P Wallace 10-5; S Bingham beat K Helgason 10-7; R Hull beat G Wilkinson 10-6; M Dunn beat D Finbow 10-5; M Selby beat A Burden 10-6; Shaun Murphy beat J Burnett 10-5; Terry Murphy beat B Pinches 10-9

Final qualifying round at Newport on 16th – 17th March: D Dale beat P Wykes 10-5; M Judge beat S Pettman 10-9; A Davies beat M Campbell 10-9; J Parrott beat S Ali 10-9; D Henry beat D Roe 10-5; Q Hann beat M Holt 10-6; R Milkins beat T Drago 10-8; J Wattana beat I McCulloch 10-7; A Hamilton beat D Morgan 10-7; C Small beat P Davies 10-7; S Bingham beat N Bond 10-6; R Hull beat S Davis 10-8; M Dunn beat B Snaddon 10-9; D Gray beat M Selby 10-7; Shaun Murphy beat M Fu 10-4; J Perry beat Terry Murphy 10-9

188.29.8.15 (talk) 04:39, 2 May 2013 (UTC) Ralph

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Runner-up more important than champion?

When I type "2002 snooker [world championship]" into Google, a summary of this Wikipedia page features prominently. It shows "Runner-up: Stephen Hendry" but does not mention Peter Ebden the champion.

Yes, I do realize this is Google's fault, not Wikipedia's. However the Wiki gurus should be intrigued enough to investigate why Google does this.Jamesdowallen (talk) 05:28, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Qualifying section all wrong?

Round 1 qualifying matches are the same as in 2001 World Championship, next section contains round 1 matches again and most of the matches are listed twice. 95.174.213.117 (talk) 05:39, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

This was apparently noticed a couple of years ago ^^^ but not picked up for some reason... An unregistered IP pointed out this morning (thanks!) that Round 1–2 of Qualifying is a total mess. Yes, I have to agree. I've attempted to make sense of it and reorder the tables but I've sadly failed so would someone else like to have a go? There's no logic to it and I can't find any sources for any of the matches. The whole of the qualifying section was added back in April 2017 by an unregistered IP but no sources were provided for Round 1–2 or pre-qualifying. Many of the matches show up several times in the table, some in both rounds Q1 and Q2, e.g. Kristján Helgason vs. Surinder Gill, Nick Dyson vs. Ian Brumby, etc. etc. Can anyone else make head or tail of this and more importantly can anyone find a source? The global-snooker source doesn't go that far back. I suggest this table should be deleted altogether if it can't be fixed. I've removed it and just left the subheadings, in case it can be easily rectified and put back. Rodney Baggins (talk) 07:41, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

I can't source to a RS, but the results are on Cuetracker... Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:53, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Lee, I'll have a look and see what I can do. I suppose cuetracker might come in handy in the absence of anything else. BTW, major congrats on your adminship, and hope you are keeping safe... Rodney Baggins (talk) 09:41, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

I've updated the tables from Cuetracker but I don't know the venues/dates. I think the earlier rounds might have been in Telford but I can't be sure without a source and I don't know the exact dates. Any ideas? Rodney Baggins (talk) 09:08, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

BennyOnTheLoose might have some funky offline sources for this? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:27, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Greetings Rodney Baggins and Lee Vilenski. According to the March 2002 Snooker Scene, following amateur pre-qualifying, seven rounds of qualifying were played at the Manhattan Club, Harrogate. Rounds 4 to 7 I have results for in Snooker Scene; Rounds 1 to 3 I should be able to check, player by player, in the 2004 CuesSport book. (Qualifying Round 1 in the Wikipedia articles is referred to as Qualifying Round 11 in the CueSport book.) After Harrogate there were a further five rounds of qualifying at Telford International Centre, which again are covered in the March Snooker Scene. The final qualifying round was held at Newport on March 16 and 17, and is covered in the April 2002 Snooker Scene. I'll start having a crack at this today BennyOnTheLoose (talk)

I've added some references and a few details. I think it would be better to add more detail about the final stages next, rather than more about early qualifying rounds. I'll probably add some details for the Crucible stages in the next few days. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 15:42, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Wow, that's above and beyond, thanks v. much Benny! I took an interest in this because I couldn't understand why it was so messed up in this diff where someone had noticed that we had Robert Milkins playing himself in qualifying! I'm particularly interested in this championship because it was the "Hendry the 8th" that never was. I was going to do some more work on the Crucible rounds myself at some point but feel free to step in and tackle it! Totally gutted that we don't have the 2020 World Championship to look forward to later this month... I feel so sorry for Judd Trump, the Crucible Curse has well and truly struck him, not even getting the chance to defend his title, poor lad! Thanks again. Rodney Baggins (talk) 17:35, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm at a loss too! Although, strictly speaking next years event will have him defend, and I'd suggest the literally meaning of the Crucible Curse will change. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:42, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Lee, you say "next year's event" like you get the feeling it ain't gonna happen this year at all. World Snooker said "possibly July or August 2020" but that would mean two world championships taking place in one season which doesn't make sense at all. You think it might be scrapped altogether? Rodney Baggins (talk) 18:32, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

I don't want that to be the case, but I think it's a big possibility. If it were me, I'd scrap a few of the early season tournaments, and play it when they were supposed to be playing. We won't know. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:12, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Rodney Baggins How about if I stick in some stuff gleaned from Snooker Scene and The Times, then you can complement that using online sources, and make it actually readable? BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:04, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Benny, that sounds like a very good plan. I think I already have a few online sources tucked away in my notes. Rodney Baggins (talk) 18:32, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk · contribs) 22:12, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

1. a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

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5. It is stable.

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7. Overall: Pass

   Pass/Fail:

Review

Lead

• Could The championships were sponsored by cigarette manufacturer Embassy. A total prize fund of £1,615,770 was awarded at the event, with the winner receiving £260,000 be combined into one sentence?
  • I did try, but it all just looked weird. I've moved the sentence though. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:49, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Second round

• Could the chiropractor claim be expanded a bit, like include a quote? Just seems odd to book an appointment when there's a tournament
  • Added a quote - he was in quite a bit of pain. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:15, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

References

• Reference 7 doesn't support the sentence
  • removed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:10, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
• Reference 12 doesn't support the sentence
  • replaced Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:10, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
• Reference 13 doesn't support the 25th consecutive time that the tournament was held at the venue.
  • replaced. 19:10, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
• Reference 16 doesn't support the sentence and can probably be deleted anyways
  • removed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:10, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
• Reference 19 is dead
  • Replaced with the almaniac source. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:10, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
• Reference 31 is not formatted correctly
  • Reformatted. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:23, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
• Are 3 references needed for the streaker claim?
  • removed a ref. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:23, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
• Reference 39 doesn't support the sentence
  • removed unsupported claim Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:23, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
• Reference 42, 49, and 50 need author (Saj Chowdhury)
  • added Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:23, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
• Are 3 references needed for Peter Ebdon reached the semi-finals for the second time, as he beat Hamilton 13–6?
  • removed one of them. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:23, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Notes

• Lee Vilenski, thank you for expanding this very interest tournament. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 00:17, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

HickoryOughtShirt?4 - I've covered the above :). Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:24, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Lee Vilenski, passing. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 15:51, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

merge?

Footnotes 43 & 64, 42 & 87, 52 & 81, 56 & 89, 19 & 61 were exactly the same.--Jarodalien (talk) 05:47, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

20 & 65.--Jarodalien (talk) 12:12, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

29 & 78.--Jarodalien (talk) 12:34, 2 January 2022 (UTC)