Talk:1974 in Wales

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I appreciate this is something that some people may care a lot about, but I'm really not sure that each individual year in Wales merits a page of its own. There's a question of where this kind of thing ends. Keeping the subdivisions limited to sovereign states is probably best? Thoughts, anyone? Driller thriller 19:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I can't see what the problem is, Driller. No-one is forcing you to read these pages...:-) Are you worried that Wikipedia will run out of electrons?

Sovereign states is a bit crude as a unit of measurement, in any case, considering that in terms of population the biggest sovereign state with English as an official language (India, pop. 1,103,600,000) is some 54,6525 times bigger than the smallest (Palau, pop. 20,200) -- and there are around 30 English-speaking sovereign states with populations smaller than that of Wales (pop. 2,958,600). Presumably you would have no problem with articles like "1991 in Saint Kitts and Nevis" while baulking at "1974 in Wales"? -- Picapica 17:46, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

The thing to do if you don't want these pages to exist is to nominate them for deletion in the specified manner (see Wikipedia:Deletion) if you're unsure, Driller. Deb 18:02, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

No, the thing to do if I want to merge pages is suggest a merge, which I have done. I don't need to be reminded of Wikipedia's rules; I just wanted to see some level of discussion first before doing anything too proactive. The idea that pages should be kept because no-one is forcing me to read them is frankly ludicrous and runs counter to Wikipedia's policies anyway, while simply playing with population figures is a little silly. The point I wish to make is that these pages in particular would be better served if it were simply subsumed by the United Kingdom pages. You are right, sovereign states as a hard and fast rule would be wrong, but so is making a page about every possible grouping of people, no matter how small, because one or two editors are willing to do so. There's no need to get snappy, I just wanted to see what you people thought. Cheers for your replies. Driller thriller 19:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

The way things stand at the moment, a merger of all the "year in Wales" pages with their equivalent "UK" pages would result in the rest of the UK not getting much of a look in. It's my view that "year in" pages actually work better for small countries because the amount of material available is relatively small and can therefore be covered adequately. It's also an easy reference for people who want to know about the history of a small country without being swamped by information about its larger neighbours. Is that the kind of response you were looking for? Deb 19:16, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

So, no snappiness allowed, but the use, whether frank or not, of such epithets as "ludicrous" and "silly" is perfectly acceptable, I see. Have removed the merge tag as, after 18 days, the proposal has been unseconded, twice opposed, and there is no corresponding tag at 1974 in the United Kingdom -- or any indication of who would perform the necessary editorial work in effecting mergers covering a span of 85 years. -- Picapica 13:21, 28 January 2007 (UTC)