Talk:1352 papal conclave

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Vicedomino in topic What's wrong with this sentence

Cardinal nephews

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The article lists eight cardinal-nephews of Pope Clement VI. To list more than one (or occasionally two) is to misunderstand the nature of a 'cardinal-nephew'. The men who are graced with the title here are indeed cardinals and indeed nephews, but none of them was a Cardinal-Nephew. The concept had not yet been invented. The concept requires that the Cardinal-Nephew be designated to handle most of the papal business, in particular in foreign affairs. That was not true under Clement VI. --Vicedomino (talk) 18:10, 31 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Importance

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In considering importance, other than it was a conclave with Electoral Capitulations, the article cites nothing to justify the tag 'High' or 'Mid' importance. BTW, Electoral Capitulations do not limit the power to elect. In Canon Law that is impossible. And the refusal of some Cardinals to go along, as well as the nullification of Pope Innocent VI, show that they were a dead letter from the start. There is much information that needs to be added. A list of names does not justify a 'C' class rating. BTW, Norman Zacour wrote a nice article, "A Note on the Papal Election of 1352: The Candidacy of Jean Birel," Traditio, Vol. 13 (1957), pp. 456-462, completely disproving the Jean Birel story. --Vicedomino (talk) 18:15, 31 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Capitulations

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Innocent VI himself lists in detail fifteen capitulations in one of his letters (Baronius-Theiner, sub anno 1352, nos. 25 and 26, p. 540). --Vicedomino (talk) 18:50, 31 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

What's wrong with this sentence

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"Pope Clement VI died on December 6, 1342 at Avignon." --Vicedomino (talk) 21:13, 31 August 2016 (UTC)Reply