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British Olympians and Paralympians in politics
editHi. I've just written, in the French Wikipedia, an article about British Olympic or Paralympic athletes who also sat in the British Parliament. Based on this list from the Parliament website. If you'd like to create the corresponding article in the English Wikipedia. Aridd (talk) 14:59, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
No Consensus to Delete - Proposed Action
editThis portal was recently nominated for deletion, and the MFD was closed on 28 August 2019 as No Consensus. The following points were noted either by the Keep editors, by the Delete editors, or by the closer:
- This portal is now said to have at least one maintainer. That will require periodic attention to the portal, not just some drive-by edits. The portal maintenance template should be updated to identify the maintainer(s).
- There should be actual evidence of maintenance, such as updates to reflect preparations for the 2020 Olympic Games.
- Outdated information was identified in the subpages. All of the forked subpages should be compared against the present articles. If necessary, the pages should be reforked (not edited in place). It would be even better to replace content forking with transclusion of the lede.
- There has been no discussion with WikiProject Olympics.
The number of articles, 25, is too small. More included articles are needed.
Addressing those points within the next two months is a minimum for addressing the concerns raised in the MFD. If these points are not addressed in two months, this portal is likely to be nominated for deletion again.
If there is really a desire to demonstrate that portals in general can be improved, here are a few suggestions for design improvement:
- Use categories to select articles of interest (athletes, sports, events) for rotation.
- Replace forking of subpages with transclusion of the lede.
Robert McClenon (talk) 21:27, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Most of the outdated content has already been replaced during the time of the MfD. Your ideas have been noted. --Hecato (talk) 21:36, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Olympic Games ceremony title
editI know that "ceremonies" has been replaced by "ceremony" but there are 3 fundamental events that are part of the games that in effect are different events so not ceremony but ceremonies. If the article is about one particular action then it should be ceremonies including the article.2605:E000:1301:4777:8981:5C61:2B21:3CAD (talk) 09:44, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
Article selection criteria – Proposal
editAdditional articles can be found using the table below.
Olympics articles by quality and importance | |||||||
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Quality | Importance | ||||||
Top | High | Mid | Low | NA | ??? | Total | |
FA | 3 | 6 | 36 | 18 | 63 | ||
FL | 12 | 24 | 58 | 94 | |||
GA | 7 | 29 | 226 | 565 | 2 | 829 | |
B | 46 | 68 | 213 | 750 | 127 | 1,204 | |
C | 33 | 133 | 476 | 3,271 | 406 | 4,319 | |
Start | 8 | 408 | 2,522 | 21,558 | 2,762 | 27,258 | |
Stub | 1 | 187 | 4,400 | 117,548 | 835 | 9,911 | 132,882 |
List | 1 | 32 | 385 | 1,655 | 3 | 384 | 2,460 |
Category | 9 | 15,048 | 15,057 | ||||
Disambig | 35 | 35 | |||||
File | 810 | 810 | |||||
Portal | 204 | 204 | |||||
Project | 62 | 62 | |||||
Redirect | 1 | 12 | 34 | 371 | 2,161 | 2,579 | |
Template | 2 | 4,462 | 4,464 | ||||
NA | 3 | 60 | 63 | ||||
Other | 1 | 101 | 102 | ||||
Assessed | 100 | 887 | 8,316 | 145,809 | 23,781 | 13,592 | 192,485 |
Unassessed | 880 | 1 | 516 | 1,397 | |||
Total | 100 | 887 | 8,316 | 146,689 | 23,782 | 14,108 | 193,882 |
WikiWork factors (?) | ω = 951,122 | Ω = 5.74 |
Article selection criteria for the portal from Portal:Olympic Games/Selected article:
Olympic related Featured articles can be added directly to this list without nomination. All other articles should be nominated first to ensure that we only display our best work on the portal.
I think this should be expanded to include FL-class, A-class and GA-class articles. Otherwise, the portal will always have limited content, and limited potential to be expanded. I also strongly recommend removing the "nominations" process from all subpages, because nobody ever uses the process, like almost ever, for almost all of the portals on English Wikipedia. This creates an issue whereby if anyone were to make a nomination, nobody is around to ever communicate about it, making the process broken and moot.
I also feel that Top-importance articles should also be considered, even if they're not at GA- or FA-class level. However, said articles should be well developed. for example, I added Ancient Olympic Games to the Selected article list because it's such a vital topic, it makes no sense to not include it in a portal about the Olympic Games, unless it is underdeveloped. However, it is a well developed article, has no maintenance tags, etc. Another matter is that sometimes articles will be well developed and obviously at B-class, but nobody ever comes along and updates the assessments on the talk page. I've seen articles that are clearly B-class assessed as Stub-class all the time, across a range of topics. North America1000 07:52, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- I agree that the criteria need to be extended to GA-class as well. But, I would not dismiss the nomination process since this is the place to conduct a discussion on adding articles that are not yet in the defined classification. Nimrodbr (talk) 08:27, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. Regarding nominations, at the very least, it should state on all subpages:
"All other articles should be nominated first at Portal talk:Olympic Games to ensure that we only display our best work on the portal.
- (Bold emphasis mine). Otherwise, users are apt to perform nominations on the talk pages of subpages, which people rarely keep track of. North America1000 08:45, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- I have added the sentence to the relevant pages. Nimrodbr (talk) 10:08, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks very much, it is much appreciated. North America1000 10:23, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- I have added the sentence to the relevant pages. Nimrodbr (talk) 10:08, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. Regarding nominations, at the very least, it should state on all subpages:
Article additions
editI have added the following GA-class articles to subpages of Portal:Olympic Games/Selected athlete. The selections include Olympians in the Olympic Games and Paralympics. In the future, additional entries for all topics that are organized by the International Olympic Committee would be great, so the portal would then also include content from the Youth Olympic Games as well. Articles added today are below. North America1000 09:28, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Host city, country
editAs argument whether the host city parameter in Olympic Games infobox should include state/province, i'm invite you to discuss whether it will be necessary to include it on Talk:2028 Summer Olympics#Host city, as it is also involved MOS:OVERLINK. Thank you. --Aleenf1 08:09, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
Browsbar
editUser:Nimrodbr I was perusing through the portals by clicking on the browsbar at the top and navigating to random portals, when I saw this. Is there a reason why this has been the only portal out of the last ~15 I've visited to not have the portal browsbar be in the same location [at the top]? I'm not too worried either way, was just curious. Thanks for letting me know though! ^^ Utopes (talk / cont) 08:51, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Honestly, I have no idea why the user who originally add this section to the portal chose to make the links to the other portals in the designed format and not in the browsbar format. Although. The template we use is currently placed in almost 500 additional portals as you can see here. Nimrodbr (talk) 09:04, 27 January 2024 (UTC)