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Dates of article changes
edit# | Date | Type | Notes |
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1 | February 16, 2006 | Full | |
2 | March 5, 2006 | Full | |
3 | April 1, 2006 | Section | Selected picture changed because of a fair use violation. |
4 | May 7, 2006 | Full | SArt:Summer Olympic Games SP:Olympic Torch SAth:Ahn Hyun Soo |
Creation
editThis page was just created by me on 2/16/06. If you have any questions about this page, would like to suggest adding something else to it, or would like to help out with this page, please feel free to leave me a message. Thanks. --Jared 20:23, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Improvements
editWhat about an article on cheating at olympics? Its a great idea to have this, but it needs to be more vissually appealing, more up-to-date and more newsy, and be a little bit better organized and connected to other pages.
Really great idea, though. Theonlyedge 23:19, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Changes to Olympics sports section
editA few thoughts ...
- I think Summer should come before Winter.
- Why are we linking to generic pages? Shouldn't we be linking to Alpine skiing at the Winter Olympics instead of just Alpine skiing?
Featured picture
editSince the FP was removed on this page due to a fair use violation, could someone please find another FP to use? Preferably a recent one having to do with the summer Olympics, but anything will do. Thanks. → J@red talk+ ubx 21:27, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Section problems...
editI've noticed a few times that people have found problems with certain sections or pictures on this portal. I'm not trying to single anyone out, but I would greatly appreciate it if when someone removes a section or picture because of a violation, the find a new section or picture to replace it. Please try not to remove anything until you have found something in its place. Thanks for complying! → J@red 15:29, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Image removal.
editThe rings image was removed from this page. I can see that this should be done on templates, user pages, etc, but this is an encyclopedic page. Why should the rings not be allowed to be placed on this page? → JARED (t) 20:15, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Our fair use policies extend only to mainspace pages. It is well settled, though, that the illustrative purpose otherwise required for a use to be fair under (at least) American copyright law, is satisifed when images are used in portal space, inasmuch as portal pages are encyclopedic (toward which proposition see, e.g., the Template:Portal TfD). This is one a few instances in which our policy with respect to images is more restrictive than it need be, and it is one that I find most troubling (it is eminently clear that many editors, having happened on our main page, click immediately on one of the portal links [displayed prominently supra to the featured article and news headers], and it seems likely that an editor will be more likely to participate propitiously in the project if the portals he/she finds are of a quality orthogonal with that of our featured articles, for which quality good images are often needed; it can be said, of course, that if the images, for example, that we have can't support a given portal, the portal ought not to be created, but that question seems moot). There does not, though, seem to be a consensus at the moment for our revising policy, notwithstanding that there is no legitimate reason for us not to permit fair use in portal space (many, I think, fearing the continued use of fair use in userspace, seek to proscribe any non-mainspace use, but I find such categorical thinking to be deleterious on the whole). Joe 18:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- I appreciate your response and I'm glad you were able to (and do currently) see it both ways. It doesn't solve my problem, but it gives a good explanation. Thank you. → JARED (t) 21:32, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
New article
editI created an article on Oscar Pistorius today. Stu ’Bout ye! 11:17, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
New Article
editI just wrote a new article about the Olympics, however I do not know where it would fit in in this portal.
My article is Politics in the Olympics
Wikinews
editPortal:Olympics/Olympics news/Wikinews has been deactivated and will not be updated by bot. The source page specified in the configuration is not properly configured. Please see User:JJMC89 bot/tasks/5 for proper configuration. — JJMC89 (T·C) 10:47, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
Recognized content
editSection has been moved to Portal:Olympic Games/Recognized content. Nimrodbr (talk) 05:38, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
Notice from the Portals WikiProject
editWikiProject Portals is back!
The project was rebooted and completely overhauled on April 17th, 2018. Its goals are to revitalize the entire portal system, make building and maintaining portals easier, support the ongoing improvement of portals and the editors dedicated to this, and design the portals of the future.
As of May 2nd, 2018, membership is at 60 editors, and growing. You are welcome to join us.
There are design initiatives for revitalizing the portals system as a whole, and for improving each component of portals. So far, 2 new dynamic components have been developed: Template:Transclude lead excerpt and Template:Transclude random excerpt.
Tools are provided for building and maintaining portals, including automated portals that update themselves in various ways.
And, if you are bored and would like something to occupy your mind, we have a wonderful task list.
From your friendly neighborhood Portals WikiProject. Hope to see you there. Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 07:40, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Football at the Summer Olympics - participating nations
editI improved the article Football at the Summer Olympics#Participating nations in my draft page here. I suggest to replace the present article. You can vote by agree or disagree.
Best regards. --Fayçal.09 (talk) 19:48, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
- Agree . Fayçal.09 (talk) 19:48, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Rq: Discussion redirected on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Olympics#Football at the Summer Olympics - participating nations page. --Fayçal.09 (talk) 22:09, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
British Olympians and Paralympians in politics
editHi. I've just written, in the French Wikipedia, an article about British Olympic or Paralympic athletes who also sat in the British Parliament. Based on this list from the Parliament website. If you'd like to create the corresponding article in the English Wikipedia. Aridd (talk) 14:59, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
No Consensus to Delete - Proposed Action
editThis portal was recently nominated for deletion, and the MFD was closed on 28 August 2019 as No Consensus. The following points were noted either by the Keep editors, by the Delete editors, or by the closer:
- This portal is now said to have at least one maintainer. That will require periodic attention to the portal, not just some drive-by edits. The portal maintenance template should be updated to identify the maintainer(s).
- There should be actual evidence of maintenance, such as updates to reflect preparations for the 2020 Olympic Games.
- Outdated information was identified in the subpages. All of the forked subpages should be compared against the present articles. If necessary, the pages should be reforked (not edited in place). It would be even better to replace content forking with transclusion of the lede.
- There has been no discussion with WikiProject Olympics.
The number of articles, 25, is too small. More included articles are needed.
Addressing those points within the next two months is a minimum for addressing the concerns raised in the MFD. If these points are not addressed in two months, this portal is likely to be nominated for deletion again.
If there is really a desire to demonstrate that portals in general can be improved, here are a few suggestions for design improvement:
- Use categories to select articles of interest (athletes, sports, events) for rotation.
- Replace forking of subpages with transclusion of the lede.
Robert McClenon (talk) 21:27, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Most of the outdated content has already been replaced during the time of the MfD. Your ideas have been noted. --Hecato (talk) 21:36, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Olympic Games ceremony title
editI know that "ceremonies" has been replaced by "ceremony" but there are 3 fundamental events that are part of the games that in effect are different events so not ceremony but ceremonies. If the article is about one particular action then it should be ceremonies including the article.2605:E000:1301:4777:8981:5C61:2B21:3CAD (talk) 09:44, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
Article selection criteria – Proposal
editAdditional articles can be found using the table below.
Olympics articles by quality and importance | |||||||
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Quality | Importance | ||||||
Top | High | Mid | Low | NA | ??? | Total | |
FA | 3 | 6 | 36 | 18 | 63 | ||
FL | 12 | 24 | 54 | 90 | |||
GA | 7 | 29 | 224 | 556 | 816 | ||
B | 45 | 65 | 201 | 710 | 126 | 1,147 | |
C | 32 | 132 | 456 | 3,108 | 399 | 4,127 | |
Start | 10 | 413 | 2,463 | 20,681 | 2,647 | 26,214 | |
Stub | 1 | 187 | 4,473 | 118,915 | 7 | 9,865 | 133,448 |
List | 1 | 32 | 377 | 1,633 | 1 | 389 | 2,433 |
Category | 27 | 14,734 | 14,761 | ||||
Disambig | 35 | 35 | |||||
File | 811 | 811 | |||||
Portal | 199 | 199 | |||||
Project | 62 | 62 | |||||
Redirect | 11 | 34 | 248 | 2,173 | 2,466 | ||
Template | 6 | 6 | 26 | 4,426 | 4,464 | ||
NA | 1 | 22 | 14 | 37 | |||
Other | 1 | 53 | 41 | 95 | |||
Assessed | 99 | 894 | 8,295 | 146,051 | 22,503 | 13,426 | 191,268 |
Unassessed | 897 | 2 | 729 | 1,628 | |||
Total | 99 | 894 | 8,295 | 146,948 | 22,505 | 14,155 | 192,896 |
WikiWork factors (?) | ω = 948,311 | Ω = 5.75 |
Article selection criteria for the portal from Portal:Olympic Games/Selected article:
Olympic related Featured articles can be added directly to this list without nomination. All other articles should be nominated first to ensure that we only display our best work on the portal.
I think this should be expanded to include FL-class, A-class and GA-class articles. Otherwise, the portal will always have limited content, and limited potential to be expanded. I also strongly recommend removing the "nominations" process from all subpages, because nobody ever uses the process, like almost ever, for almost all of the portals on English Wikipedia. This creates an issue whereby if anyone were to make a nomination, nobody is around to ever communicate about it, making the process broken and moot.
I also feel that Top-importance articles should also be considered, even if they're not at GA- or FA-class level. However, said articles should be well developed. for example, I added Ancient Olympic Games to the Selected article list because it's such a vital topic, it makes no sense to not include it in a portal about the Olympic Games, unless it is underdeveloped. However, it is a well developed article, has no maintenance tags, etc. Another matter is that sometimes articles will be well developed and obviously at B-class, but nobody ever comes along and updates the assessments on the talk page. I've seen articles that are clearly B-class assessed as Stub-class all the time, across a range of topics. North America1000 07:52, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- I agree that the criteria need to be extended to GA-class as well. But, I would not dismiss the nomination process since this is the place to conduct a discussion on adding articles that are not yet in the defined classification. Nimrodbr (talk) 08:27, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. Regarding nominations, at the very least, it should state on all subpages:
"All other articles should be nominated first at Portal talk:Olympic Games to ensure that we only display our best work on the portal.
- (Bold emphasis mine). Otherwise, users are apt to perform nominations on the talk pages of subpages, which people rarely keep track of. North America1000 08:45, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- I have added the sentence to the relevant pages. Nimrodbr (talk) 10:08, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks very much, it is much appreciated. North America1000 10:23, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- I have added the sentence to the relevant pages. Nimrodbr (talk) 10:08, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. Regarding nominations, at the very least, it should state on all subpages:
Article additions
editI have added the following GA-class articles to subpages of Portal:Olympic Games/Selected athlete. The selections include Olympians in the Olympic Games and Paralympics. In the future, additional entries for all topics that are organized by the International Olympic Committee would be great, so the portal would then also include content from the Youth Olympic Games as well. Articles added today are below. North America1000 09:28, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Host city, country
editAs argument whether the host city parameter in Olympic Games infobox should include state/province, i'm invite you to discuss whether it will be necessary to include it on Talk:2028 Summer Olympics#Host city, as it is also involved MOS:OVERLINK. Thank you. --Aleenf1 08:09, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
Browsbar
editUser:Nimrodbr I was perusing through the portals by clicking on the browsbar at the top and navigating to random portals, when I saw this. Is there a reason why this has been the only portal out of the last ~15 I've visited to not have the portal browsbar be in the same location [at the top]? I'm not too worried either way, was just curious. Thanks for letting me know though! ^^ Utopes (talk / cont) 08:51, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Honestly, I have no idea why the user who originally add this section to the portal chose to make the links to the other portals in the designed format and not in the browsbar format. Although. The template we use is currently placed in almost 500 additional portals as you can see here. Nimrodbr (talk) 09:04, 27 January 2024 (UTC)