Wikipedia talk:Teahouse

Follow-up on Bot inoperable

@Usernamekiran and Frostly: happy Friday! No news from Tigraan, I presume? Is the revival of Muninnbot still ongoing? Thanks for bearing with yet another check in. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 16:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

@Rotideypoc41352: Hi. Yes, I have worked a little on the bot. I think I would get it running in a week or two. I apologise for the delay. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:41, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! For reference: Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/KiranBOT 13 (permalink) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 21:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Trial run approved. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 14:44, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Duplicate topics in archive

I have reported the problem on User talk:Σ.

The duplicate content is in User:Vchimpanzee/sandbox.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 23:27, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Nice! I appreciate that. Steven1991 (talk) 00:28, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Community Wishlist: Invitation to Explore the Article Creation Guidance Focus Area

Hello Teahouse,

The Community Wishlist has gathered a collection of wishes and suggestions over time, highlighting the need for better support and guidance for newcomers as they create articles, while also aiming to reduce frustration and reverts. These ideas have been grouped under the Article Creation Guidance Focus Area.

We invite both hosts and those interested in improving newcomer workflows to explore these wishes, join the discussion on the focus area’s collective talk page, and cast your vote if this topic resonates with you.

On behalf of the Community Tech team, STei (WMF) (talk) 17:16, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Remove Deletion Box Sabi Christy Page

Sabi Christy is an Costume Designer of Shine Tom Chacko and worked in so many malayalam films. Would you please approve this page for him. it will help more notable for him. Please help me to develop this page.

Thanks, ArifVlog782 (talk) 06:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

@ArifVlog782: This is the wrong place to ask for help, and it looks like the page has already been deleted. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Reverted vandalism

I have just reverted some childish vandalism to the Teahouse, which had removed the usual page-top navigation templates, etc., and left a silly message. This is not usually the sort of area I operate in, so others may wish to check what I've done and to take any warning or other steps appropriate regarding the vandal. Thanks. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.86.81 (talk) 19:33, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

This page is for discussion about the operation of the Teahouse, and is not the Teahouse itself. (That's at WP:TEAHOUSE). Vandalism should be reported to WP:AIV. 331dot (talk) 20:17, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

The IP's comment was about the operation of the Teahouse though. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:51, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, 94/87! Not going to bother with a warning at this point since the IP hasn't edited since, looks otherwise fine to me. Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 21:05, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 November 2024

The Scale of the Universe

I am on the edge of getting banned rn. I added the description in the info box, i've been doing this for 3 days straight. But the one about the water molecule had a joke about how they look like mickey mouse heads, so they called it vandalism, I reported and undid the mistake, but then it said that I might loss privileges, and if I'm getting banned for telling the truth, then so be it, i'm going to undo the bot bot again, and if this is the last message I send, I want this account's dying with to be to remove ClueBot NG. goodbye Saarabout (talk) 16:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

WHY IS THE TEAHOUSE PROTECTED

Because there was disruptive editing from an IP editor. You should be discussing your reverted edits at Talk:The Scale of the Universe rather than edit warring. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:02, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

What is the difference between Teahouse project page and Teahouse Talk Page

What is the difference between Teahouse project page and Teahouse Talk Page UnsungHistory (talk) 20:48, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

@UnsungHistory This is answered at the top of the page, the talk page is to discuss how the Teahouse is ran, while the Teahouse itself is for asking questions about Wikipedia. CommissarDoggo^Talk? 20:50, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Pending changes

This page, provided especially to welcome new users, should not have pending changes protection. User:Ivanvector, please undo this ASAP (same for WP:Help desk). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:20, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

This and the help desk has been the target of an abusive user(on the assumption that we won't protect those pages). 331dot (talk) 19:21, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Andy, I don't think you were around when we were dealing with this, and pending changes (where anon editors can edit with moderation) seems preferable to semiprotection (where anon editors can't edit at all) and also to reverting a vandal every few minutes. I'm open to suggestions, though. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 19:28, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

That was almost 24 hours ago, and warrants protection for a few hours at most, not a month, unless repeated on another occasion. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:31, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

The history of this user is that they resume targeting this page when protection ends. 331dot (talk) 19:48, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Well I do love your optimism that this particular user is going to give up after a day of protection. They've been at it for about eight months at this point, after writing things like this, and personally I'm disinclined to not act on it. But if you insist, I will unprotect the pages. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 19:53, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

I don't really see the point in using pending changes here. Nothing is prevented — their changes still have to be reverted. All it does is make people approve every other edit. I personally think we should just leave their posts and quietly remove them after a couple hours instead of getting into long revert-wars that ultimately result in semi-protection anyways. C F A 💬 00:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

• I'm going to bring this up at WP:AN for wider opinions. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 14:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 November 2024

I would like to describe the subject neutrally. Can you help me with this? NTIBABAZANIGENE (talk) 19:32, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 20:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Question moved to Wikipedia:Teahouse#Describing subject neutrally. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:10, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 November 2024 (2)

Master Eddie Bravo calls him Louis "Street" Ho. Look it up on the 10th Planet website in the videos. Starid (talk) 20:14, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 20:50, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Question moved to Wikipedia:Teahouse#Sensei Louis Ho. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:15, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Edit requests

I'm not sure what purpose there is to allowing edit request like those above to be added to this talk page. Edit requests regarding specific article content should be made on the talk page of the article itself, right? So, declining them as they've been declined above doesn't make much sense to me. The best that can be done in my opinion would be to respond in the same way as if the "request" was posted on the main TH page itself: advise the asker that questions and concerns about article content should be discussed on the article's talk page. Similarly, when TH questions are posted here by mistake, they are sometimes moved to the main page and responded to there.

I know these ER are the direct result of the main TH page being protected, and the templates used for protection probably are advising people to post their ER on this talk page. That set up may work fine for other pages but seem to work as well here since pretty much TH questions are about things other than the TH itself. Is there any way to tweak things so that this talk page doesn't suddenly get filled up with edit requests? -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:51, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes, declining the edit requests isn't very useful. Now that the edit protection has been lifted, I'm going to move the questions to the main Teahouse page so that they can be answered. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:05, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

The editnotice is broken

See Template talk:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia:Teahouse#Template styles CSS needs to be changed. Myrealnamm's Alternate Account (talk) 18:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

New Growth Team feature

Hi Teahouse hosts, we're going to be trialling a new Growth Team Feature starting on Monday. You may see some unusual newbie behaviour or get some questions you've never had before. They're not sockpuppets! They're the new accounts that are being introduced to the new Add a link task. You'll be able to identify these edits easily, since they'll be tagged like this: (Tags: Visual edit, Newcomer task, Suggested: add links). It will also be possible to filter Recent Changes to see all edits suggested by this tool.

This feature helps spot likely places for new wikilinks and guides newcomers on how to add them and why. We're starting it really, really small - just 2% of all new accounts will get this feature in the first week - but the number will start rising over time. It should be a big improvement over the "add links" task we have now, which simply points newcomers at articles in Category:Articles with too few wikilinks. If you've ever added Template:Underlinked to an article only to come back a few hours later and find it overlinked to hell and back by a horde of well-meaning newbies, this is why. This new task is smarter, so we shouldn't see that kind of problem. But if we do notice that newcomers are adding bad links too often, or too many links, we can tinker with various settings that will impact this behaviour. And if this causes some kind of horrible unforseen problem, we can pause the experiment at any time.

More information here and here. -- asilvering (talk) 04:53, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Appreciate the heads up! Sdkb ^talk 05:52, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 November 2024

Posted Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:00, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Markus Paterson

I noticed he is in digital romantic comedy series on YouTube and he has a small role maybe a guest role. I want to add this on his filmography but the only source i can find is the full episode on YouTube. What can I do if he officially appeared but there are no other sources regarding this. What can I do? 122.55.235.127 (talk) 03:29, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Fundraising season

I expect the usual number of questions about fundraising season, which starts soon. What do you all think about putting a big, neutral box/banner at the top to answer the usual questions (i.e., "Is this a hoax?" and "How do I get rid of this?")? Maybe something like this:

Alternatively, if there is a page on Wikipedia:How to hide fundraising banners, the second half could be replaced with a simple link to that. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:37, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

The reply template {{WikiDonation}} addresses the most common concerns and objections but I think it's too wordy (or maybe some judicious bolding of text may help). If we're going to add a talk page banner we could try revising the WikiDonation text at the same time. I'm afraid not all visitors will even see or read a banner so we can't rely on that alone. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email · global) 00:38, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Um, @ClaudineChionh, were you aware that that message links to WP:DAILYDOT, which is not a very reputable source per WP:RSP, and to a user comment in an internet forum, which is outright banned by WP:V. I'm not convinced that good editors would be comfortable posting that if they realized what it was linking to. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:43, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

WhatamIdoing: No – thank you for pointing that out, and what a great illustration of me just glazing over familiar-looking text! So fixing that reply template should be a priority. It shouldn't be hard to find better sources. — ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email · global) 00:54, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Why is this protected?

I am a new editor and want to ask a question about Wikipedia. I can't do so if this page is protected. Lenderthrond (talk) 00:07, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

@Lenderthrond, it's fixed now, sorry about that. -- asilvering (talk) 00:19, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

I am also a new user and have to ask a very urgent question/s. The other page is still blocked. T3fg72zp (talk) 01:46, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi T3fg72zp,

Hope you are doing well! What page are you referring too? I would be happy to answer any questions you have here, feel free to hit reply and ask and I will do my best to answer them!

I would also like to say that I think it is awesome that you are a lawyer!

Best, Luke Elaine Burke (talk) 01:51, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

This page (Wikipedia: Teahouse) and other help pages are the target of a long term abusive user (MAB); unfortunately lesser measures do not deter them which always leads to page protection. Untamed1910 (talk) 02:00, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

I would like to edit (remove/ update / modify) a certain incorrect sentence on a particular page which is semi-protected. The talk page of the concerned editor (who reinserted back that controversial sentence after it was deleted by a Wiki Admin) is also semi protected so I can't discuss with them. I need advice. T3fg72zp (talk) 02:07, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi T3fg72zp, could you please reply to me with what the page is that you are trying to edit? If you could also include who the other user is and what sentance you are trying to change that would be great! Please feel free to ask any other questions and I would love to do my best to help!

Best, Luke Elaine Burke (talk) 02:10, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

If you are replying to me:

It is always best to assume good faith. I would encourage you to answer the newcomers asking for help via your talk page. I am well aware that this page is targeted.

Best, Luke Elaine Burke (talk) 02:08, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for your assistance. The brief facts are these :- a) it is a single sentence in a very controversial article. Actually the sentence should not even be there. b) I would not like to edit the page directly because of "Streisand". c) Discussing it on the article talk page would bring in all the dramaboard regulars. d) The concerned editor seems a very sober and veteran editor, so I'm sure would appreciate my points and would delete it themselves. ie. if I could contact them, T3fg72zp (talk) 02:17, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

The place to talk about an issue on a particular page is the talk page for that page. You can also ask for changes to a protected page on Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Current requests for edits to a protected page. You will have to say what you want changed somewhere or change it yourself. And if it is a controversial article, you can be sure that many editors will notice, and some will disagree. Anyway that is why a discussion is likely necessary. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:02, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

I have, unenthusiastically, s-protected the page again. Any admin thinking it wise to adjust or cancel the s-protection is free to do so without consulting me. -- Hoary (talk) 08:24, 2 December 2024 (UTC)