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Talk:Imamate of Aussa

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I don't remember posting anything uncivil towards you but if I did I apologise in advance. Yubudirsi (talk) 04:44, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Battle of Adal (15th century) moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Battle of Adal (15th century). Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

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Hello, this topic is not covered by many historians, Richard Pankhurst clearly talks about the battle in his book that I cited on that page, I don't seem to get the problem here ? Yubudirsi (talk) 05:45, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

1st Bali expedition moved to draftspace

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Hello, can I not use primary sources ? Yubudirsi (talk) 05:42, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

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Deletion discussion about Battle of Jazja

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I don't understand, why should it be deleted ?? Yubudirsi (talk) 05:19, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

@TimothyBlue:

Why is it being deleted

Matan ibn Uthman (talk) 14:54, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

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Socialwave597 (talk) 23:05, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Ways to improve First Battle of Yedaya

Hello, Yubudirsi,

Thank you for creating First Battle of Yedaya.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

This battle is just a passing mention in the sources with no indication of the notability we expect from a stand-alone article

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Mccapra (talk) 15:50, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I don't really understand what you mean, could you be more clear on the passing mention ? I don't understand how that's an issue really ? The primary source as well as the secondary source mention a battle taking place, they mention where its taking place as well and the belligerents, maybe there's something I'm missing, also how much time do I have to add more sources ? Secondary sources covering the history of the Adal Sultanate are very rare, it's really an under-researched subject. I just bought two more books which cover the topic, they're set to arrive soon. Yubudirsi (talk) 17:10, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

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CS1 error on Amélie Chekroun

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Got it Yubudirsi (talk) 00:47, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Adal Sultanate

Welcome to Wikipedia. Unfortunately, content you added to a Wikipedia article appears to be a minority or fringe viewpoint, and appears to have given undue weight to this minority viewpoint, and has been reverted. To maintain a neutral point of view, an idea that is not broadly supported by scholarship in its field must not be given undue weight in an article about a mainstream idea. Feel free to use the article's talk page to discuss this, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Magherbin (talk) 14:45, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Hello, No.

It was an extract of Amélie Chekroun's book talking about how the Argobba claim to Ifat and Adal is baseless, I don't know why you deleted it please be more precise. Yubudirsi (talk) 00:46, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

The thesis introduces fringe theory thats not widely accepted as explained on the same text "This idea was first put forward by Volker Stitz in 1973, then was subsequently widely taken up in historiography". "Cette idée a été pour la première fois avancée par Volker Stitz en 1973, puis a été par la suite largement reprise dans l’historiographie". Fringe theories are not to be put in articles. Do you think that the edit didnt also include original research about "mixed Hararis"? where did Amelie even mention this? Do not include original research and fringe theories onto articles. Its the Somali connection to Adal and Ifat thats fringe here and Amelie Chekroun explains this in the same paper. She states that Harari connection to Harar has not been proven and is perplexing, this is because sources are limited in Harar due to it being closed off until the 19th century. If you would like we will include your fringe theory (better worded without original research) however the line where Amelie Chekroun states Somalis made less than a fraction of the Adal army, they appropriate Harari Adal history and how Hararis have more of a claim to it than Somalis should also be included, see p.17. What do you think? Magherbin (talk) 04:16, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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Magherbin (talk) 14:58, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Check topic above I left a message Yubudirsi (talk) 00:47, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Amélie Chekroun

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

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