Savethelastbook

June 2011

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Problems with upload of File:Ross...marion.jpg

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Ross Hauser

(I've duplicated this here in case you don't return in the next few days; my talk page archives rather rapidly. :))

Hi, I know that you were one of the people who flagged down the "Ross Hauser" article about a year ago. I'm new to Wikipedia, and I really wanted to write an article. I decided to try to take over the Ross Hauser article and try to get it cleaned up to unflag it. I tried my best, but it is still flagged. I completely understand if you don't want to do this, but I was wondering if you would work with me to help get it cleaned up. Or, even explain to me what to do from here, because I'm afraid I don't understand. Again, I understand if you are busy and don't want to.--Savethelastbook (talk) 17:18, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia! I didn't actually flag "Ross Hauser"; I just addressed some copyright concerns with it, but I'm happy to talk to you about how the flags work and what to do about them. I'm afraid I don't have time to help work on the article at the moment. Lots going on. :)

A few general tips, first. I see that you are using the medical title "Dr" throughout the article. Wikipedia doesn't do this; we simply refer to subjects by their last names. (See WP:CREDENTIAL).

I also see that you're running into some trouble with citations, with markup like this:

{{cite url=http://www.bonemarrowprolotherapy.com/}}

That's not a working markup on Wikipedia. What you need is something more like this (with the fields filled in):

{{cite web |url= |title= |author= |date= |work= |publisher= |accessdate=25 June 2011}}

When placed right after the material it is sourcing, this will automatically populate the reference list below.

You will need to consider the reliability of sources. I see that you are using another Wikipedia article as a reference. I'm afraid that you can't do this, as we don't consider Wikipedia a reliable source. (No slur on ourselves; we don't consider any Wiki a reliable source, except to provide information about itself. :)) Reliable sources include things like newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, and reliable industry websites that are not in any way affiliated with the subject. http://www.caringmedical.com/index.asp, http://www.bonemarrowprolotherapy.com/, and http://getprolo.com/hauser_illinois_prolotherapy.htm, for example, are affiliated with the subject, so they are not reliable sources for most claims about him. They are considered "primary sources". Most information in articles should be sourced to things that disinterested sources have said about the subject. When most of the information in the Ross Hauser article refers to reliable sources that are not affiliated with Hauser or his practice, the "primary sources" tag can be removed. (If you are in doubt about the quality of a source, the place to ask is WP:RSN. Most of the sources I see in the article that are not clearly primary sources are websites of medical commercial services related to the field—and these are not reliable sources either, I'm afraid; they are "self-published sources". See WP:SOURCES and Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources.

In terms of the notability tag, the thing to look at here is Wikipedia:Notability (people) and Wikipedia:Notability. Resolving the last concern (sourcing) may help resolve this one; basically, if there are enough disinterested reliable sources taking about Hauser, then Hauser very likely meets notability guidelines. I would usually recommend starting with a search of Google news and Google scholar. The more people talking about Hauser and his work, the better.  :)

The final tag has to do with "conflict of interest" and is based on the fact that the person who placed the biography here evidently had a close association with Hauser and it is unknown whether the article is properly balanced. I've touched on one of the core content policies above--information must be verifiable to reliable sources--but there are two others that come into play here. Information must be neutral (properly balanced to reflect what those reliable sources say) and it cannot include original research. We are a tertiary source, so Wikipedia is not the place to present unpublished theories, facts or opinions. :) People who are close to a subject may have biases that they don't even recognize and may even inadvertently use articles to advance their own "inside" knowledge.

In theory, that tag can be removed by any editor who has no affiliation with the subject who has thoroughly reviewed it to make sure that coverage is balanced and sourced. In practice, I really recommend against it if you are a newer contributor, as my observation suggests that others are likely to be suspicious that you may be the "COI" editor returning under a new name. In that case, I would recommend that after you get the sourcing issues addressed (replacing the unreliable sources with reliable ones) and carefully evaluate it for neutrality you take it to the conflict of interest noticeboard and tell them you are a new contributor who has revised this article and want to know if the tag can be removed.

Please feel free to let me know at my talk page if you have any other questions. I may not have time to work on the article, but I am happy to offer you what advice I can. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:43, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Ross Hauser for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Ross Hauser is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ross Hauser until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 14:48, 30 June 2011 (UTC)