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FishBase and Wikipedia

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I suggest you take a real look through this. One thing I'd like to note to you, seeing your contributions to pages such as Coregonus albula, is that Wikipedia fish articles always follow the names and classifications of FishBase. —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 21:13, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! I am trying my best, particularly as to Coregonus albula] (but inline refs still missing). -Olaff (talk) 22:01, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

What I meant is that the article name chosen should be the FishBase primary one (unless FishBase does not give any or gives the same name for several species), and the name should be referred to completely in lowercase unless it includes a proper noun (brown trout, Atlantic salmon). As for taxonomies, we follow FishBase entirely at the English Wikipedia. Also, might you be interested in the collaboration group (well, in theory it is one) Wikipedia:WikiProject Fishes? —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 15:11, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Cherry salmon and redirects

Hi Olaff!

I noticed you made some name changes in regarding cherry salmon, straightening out the names. One thing I noticed that when you changed the name, for example from seema to cherry salmon, you did not make cherry salmon the link to the target article Oncorhynchus masou. So the reader clicks on cherry salmon and is redirected to Oncorynchus masou. It is good practice to link directly to the target article, like this cherry salmon. In this link there is no redirect. Just a suggestion. imars (talk) 06:25, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Oooops! I always get the link syntax backwards. Fixed. imars (talk) 06:26, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

So much for good practice. Someone just pointed out the following to me: WP:NOTBROKEN. Looks like I do not know as much as I thought. :-) imars (talk) 16:33, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Your reversion to herring

The recent reversion you made here was not appropriate. Most of the articles you removed are in fact about herrings in general, and not specifically about Clupea. It is true that many of them have a taxon box for Clupea, but they shouldn't have. The herring article on the English Wikipedia had a taxon box too, until recently when I removed it. You should examine each of the interwiki links, passing them through Google Translator. You will find most of them are actually articles about herrings (often based on the original English article), and should be linked from the herring article, and not the Clupea one. Also, please avoid the appearance of edit warring, and take matters like this to the talk page once you have been reverted. There are, sadly, people on Wikipedia, known as "administrators", who are allowed to circle over the editors who write the encyclopedia like hawks searching for carrion, looking for a chance to block them. "Edit warring" is one of their favorite excuses. Editors are particularly vulnerable in this area, because edit waring is not defined with any precision, so administrators can block you at whim. So I'm not going to revert you again, but I ask you to revert yourself, after checking just which links should be reverted. Thanks. --Epipelagic (talk) 04:26, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Response here. Olaff (talk) 17:30, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

And I responded here --Epipelagic (talk) 05:10, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

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Unexplained deletions

Hi Olaff. Lately you have been making a number of unexplained, or inadequately explained deletions, particularly to the articles on cod, herring and salmon. When you delete material, unless it is transparent vandalism, would you please make a separate edit for the deletion and explain adequately in the edit summary why you are deleting it. If your reason is too detailed for an edit summary, then please leave a note on the talk page. Thanks. --Epipelagic (talk) 02:26, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Interwiki links on herring

Olaff, would you mind addressing this query. I agree with the concerns expressed there, but it would be good if you can clarify your position. Thanks. --Epipelagic (talk) 08:03, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

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Hydrozoan etymology

Hello, Olaff! Thanks for the correction at Hydrozoa. I had in fact looked it up in the online OED, which derives the first element simply from MLat hydro-, which in turn mentions no Greek root but hudor. However, your reversion prompted me to look in my dead-trees edition of the original OED, which indeed traces the term to the animal Hydra, with a (vaguely) supporting quote from Owen. (I was quite suprised to see the final A change to an O in the combining form, instead of making *hydrazoa, which is what made me think the etymology implausible at first, but I can accept this as an unsolved mystery for now.) That said, the original Lernaean Hydra is a further step removed; do you think the derivation should mention the animal instead, as the proximate source—or at least in addition to the mythical creature, to complete the chain?—Odysseus1479 02:35, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi, yes it would be nice to have both steps explained, but with explicit reference to the sources. --Olaff (talk) 19:43, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

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