User talk:Ian13/Archive9

Archive 9 Please do NOT edit this page, If you wish to reply to any message on here then please copy the whole conversation to my current talk page. Thanks! Ian¹³/t 18:00, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

User:Misza13's pile!

Thank you for contributing the impressive the pile of supports gathered on my RfA, which passed with a final tally of 0x0104/0x01/0x00. I'm happy that so many people have put faith in my abilities as an admin and promise to use the tools wisely and do my best not to let you down. If I ever may be of assistance, just leave a note on my talk page. Misza13, the rouge-on-demand admin wishes you happy editing! NOTE: This message has been encrypted with the sophisticated ROT-26 algorithm. Ability to decipher it indicates a properly functioning optical sensor array.

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Hello, I am a member of a research group at Palo Alto Research Center (formerly known as Xerox PARC) studying how conflicts occur and resolve on Wikipedia. Due to your experience in conflict resolution on Wikipedia (e.g., as a member of the Mediation Cabal) we’re extremely interested in your insights on this topic. We have a survey at http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=400792384029 which we are inviting a few selected Wikipedians to participate in, and we would be extremely appreciative if you would take the time to complete it. As a token of our gratitude, we would like to present you with a PARC research star upon completion. Thank you for your time.

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Oh wow - is it really PARC? PARC are really rather amazing. Ian¹³/t 15:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Monty Python TfD compromise

There is a compromise now posted on the TfD if you are still interested in this debate. One question, even though you are against this TfD, have you even taken the master template out for a test drive?
—Lady Aleena talk/contribs 08:42, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

{{AMA alerts}}

I hardly find it appropriate to put big screaming boxes at the top of usertalk pages. If you want to leave messages, I ask you put them at the bottom of the page under a new heading in plain text. I understand their position may have been a mistake - but please consider different ways of conveying the message. Thanks! Ian¹³/t 17:12, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I didn't mean to offend, Ian, I'm simply trying to implement an opt-outable system to communicate between all Advocates without having to post something on every single talk page. The template idea seemed like the best way to do things, as with transclusion, all that need be done is one page change and all tagged pages are updated. If you find it a bit too brash, feel free to remove the template and please accept my apologies. אמר Steve Caruso _(desk/AMA) 22:31, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

No problem, I was just letting you know that big orange messages at the top of usertalk pages doesn't always keep everyone happy. Thanks! Ian¹³/t 11:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

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User talk:Stephencolbert

Please don't present your personal opinion on the SC issue as official WP policy. As admins, we need to work this stuff out by consensus (and involve foundation members where appropriate). Your edit was improper, as the account was blocked for impersonation concerns (not retribution). Furthermore, your statement implies that an admin consensus exists on this issue to the effect that SC is not welcome here. That is simply not true. If that account is validated as belonging to him, then it'll be unblocked. If you have any concerns about this, let's bring it to WP:AN. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 20:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I have updated the talk page with the comment removed. I reccomend to bring it to the administrator's notice board or bring a foundation member in to make a decision as serious as this. Last time I checked admin's can't speak for an organization, especially not when the decision may end up being seen outside of Wikipedia. --Nick Catalano _contrib ^talk 00:43, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I hardly think I was misrepresenting Wikipedia policy. It to me seems obvious that that account was used as part of a bid to bring mass Vandalism to Wikipedia in a very promenent way. I hardly think we need to show users that you can make public bids for vandalism and get away with it. WP:BP clearly states "Sysops may block IP addresses or usernames that disrupt the normal functioning of Wikipedia, or pose any kind of threat to it." I hardly think the actions linked to this case are anything but disruption. I also presonally object to removal of my edit - you are more than welcome to state it is invalid on the page - but removing others comments because you don't agree with them hardly resolves anything. I personally would be surprised if anyone unblocked the account (even if it was verified to be him) purely because of the massive disruption to elephants he caused (and he will have been the one that caused it if it was him). I can't see how it couldn't be seen as anything else. Nethertheless, I hardly see the point of waring over whether my comments should be removed - but I do ask you don't do it - but instead add a comment and discuss with me first. It may have been misplaced (and quite possibly was) but I think people are disucssing the wrong things. Happy editing! Ian¹³/t 19:59, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

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Thank you!

We've awarded you this PARC research star in recognition for your contribution to research about conflict in Wikipedia. Thank you for your help!!! --Parc wiki researcher 21:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

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G. Patrick Maxwell 1997 court case

I have deleted the material relating to this. Do not reinstate it. This is not an editing decision. It is removed to protect the Foundation. I am currently having dialogue with OFFICE over this matter. Contact me if you wish to discuss it. Thank you.

FYI - posted on article talk page. Tyrenius 19:51, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Ian, how can we talk to OFFICE? THere is absolutely nothing "Serious" about these references - there is no libel or invasion of privacy. These are public records, and true. Therefore, they are not libelous.jawesq 00:00, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

As you wish:

This matter should probably be delt with at the email address info-en-q@wikimedia.org, or by conacting the following:

Wikimedia Foundation Inc.
200 2nd Ave. South #358
St. Petersburg, FL 33701-4313
USA
Phone: +1-727-231-0101
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Wikibreak

Hey Ian, I hope you have a good Wikibreak, and that you find yourself able to work well again. Have a nice time relaxing, we hope to see you back here soon! -- Natalya 15:10, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Ian, have a nice Wikibreak. It's good to take a break once in a while, and I hope you will be back soon. Oh yes, do you have MSN or Yahoo! Messenger BETA 8? If you have, you may add me, the addresses are on my user page. As for Yahoo! add my Windows Live, since now it is interchangable. P.S. Its time I should have a break, but Wikipediholism is stopping me from doing it. Cheers --Terence Ong _{(T | C)} 06:25, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar!

		The Original Barnstar
		For being the first to be helpful as explictily requested, I award you a Helpful Barnstar : ) - Jc37 15:45, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Wo! Thanks :) Ian¹³/t 18:57, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:GUS

Please read the box at the top.

The German userbox solution to the userbox controversy (so named because it originated on the German Wikipedia) is to put userboxes in user space. No new policy is needed to do this, and this is not a policy proposal. Just go ahead and do it. So, yes, if they're moving them to user space, GUS as a reason is fine. 1ne 09:12, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Not really. Also, I am more concerned by people who say "GUS is practically policy anyway". We can all have our own opinions. Ian¹³/t 16:38, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes really. What, they should sit clogging up template space? 1ne 04:37, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Yep. Think of it this way, some may feel there are to many religions, but that doesn't mean we have the right to state everyone must be an athiest, and move all the religions somewhere else. They are still there, and it doesn't really matter what namespace number userboxes are assigned in the database. Ian¹³/t 18:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Defender of the wiki

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		For your defense of userboxes, and also attempting to teach sense to certain clueless admins, I award you this barnstar. Don't give up the fight! --Pilotguy (roger that) 21:46, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, and I won't. I am not a personal liker of all the userboxes there are, but some seem a little misguided in their control of the situation. Ian¹³/t 18:50, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Just to let you know that I have already responded to your comment you left on my RfA and the question you were waiting for me to answer. Cheers.--Konstable 22:28, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Greetings from Paris

Hello there. I thought I recognised your name on the "mediation Cabal" page - then I recalled that you've been a witness to "Paris happenings" once before. I've yet another problem with resistance to obvious fact - but the case has just been sitting there for days now. Do cases usually take some time to get picked up? I'm a bit concerned that the both factual and "foreign" aspect of this case may waylay some. Any advice - ? I suppose I should just wait but I would like to be sure.

Thanks, take care,

THEPROMENADER 10:25, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Cases sometimes can take a while, and certain topics to deter people. As long as the case is showing up here people are able to see it and review. Ian¹³/t 16:36, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I see that it is there. It is one of the oldest cases which hasn't been picked up, but it should do soon. Ian¹³/t 16:41, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Done, taken. Sorry to bother you for nothing, and thanks for the pointer. Cheers. THEPROMENADER 07:13, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Konstable's RfA thanks

Hi Ian13, thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which was closed as successful last Wednesday with a unanimous support of (47/0/0). I will do my best to help keep Wikipedia clean, green and vandal free. Once again, thank you! --Konstable 14:48, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

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Program Feature: Barnstar Brigade Here in Wikipedia there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go unappreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go unnoticed. As Esperanzians we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. This is where the Barnstar Brigade comes in. The object of this program is to seek out the people which deserve a Barnstar, and help them feel appreciated. With your help, we can recognize more dedicated editors! What's New? September elections are upon us! Anyone wishing to be a part of the Advisory Council may list themselves as a candidate from 18 September until 24 September, with the voting taking place from 25 September to 30 September. Those who wish to help with the election staff should also list themselves! Appreciation Week, a program currently in development, now has its own subpage! Share your good ideas on how to make it awesome there! The Esperanza front page has been redesigned! Many thanks to all who worked hard on it. Many thanks to MiszaBot, courtesy of Misza13, for delivering the newsletter.

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Navigation toolbar

Hi Ian, I copied the code for your navigation toolbar on your userpage and tweaked it a bit to my liking. Hope you don't mind, and I like it of course. ;) --Terence Ong _{(T | C)} 14:40, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem :) Ian¹³/t 17:50, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Association of Members' Advocates

Hi, you are receiving this message because you have listed yourself as an active member of WP:AMA. If you aren't currently accepting inquiries for AMA, or if you have resigned, please de-list yourself from Wikipedia:AMA Members. If you are still active, please consider tending to any new requests that may appear on Category:AMA Requests for Assistance. We're going to put AMA on wheels. :) Sorry for the template spamming - we're just trying to update our records, after we had a huge backlog earlier in the week (if you've been taking cases, then sorry, and please ignore this :)). Again, sorry, and thanks! Martinp23 21:02, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Regarding {{User:KyraVixen/Userboxes/Pancakes}}

Might I inquire why you moved this userbox back to the Template: namespace, then copied the coding back into {{User:KyraVixen/Userboxes/Pancakes}}? If I am not mistaken, I have followed the appropriate steps for userfying the box through WP:GUS. I am not angry or anything, I am just rather curious as to why you decided to do so. Almost all (save two transclusions as of the time I am writing this) of the previous tranclusions from the userbox due to the {{User UBM UBX to}} template have been bypassed, so the current userbox within my sub page has become the new 'master' box, for lack of a better word.

I guess the most concise question I can ask is; why break the history of the userbox, and why duplicate information? May you have a pleasant day, and happy editing. --Kyra_~(talk) 21:25, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Feel free to forward your 'master' copy to the template space, but I personally don't think that anyone had a right to claim any userbox to their userspace (per GUS or whatever it is now called). I will happily reverse any userboxes out there to their template page, until GUS followers have some basis of authority for doing so (and no, I am not a policy lord; I just don't think that one party should decide what everyone has to do without some form of discussion and community approval). Ian¹³/t 19:38, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		Your service to Wikipedia is most deserving of this barnstar. Good job! Sharkface217 21:38, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Wow. Thanks :) Ian¹³/t 17:45, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

November Esperanza Newsletter

Program Feature: Admin Coaching (needs coaches!) Admin Coaching needs coaches!!! If you are an administrator, or even a generally experienced user, do consider signing up to be a coach. Admin Coaching, now being coordinated by HighwayCello, is a program for people who want help learning some of the more subtle aspects of Wikipedia policy and culture. People are matched with experienced users who are willing to offer coaching. The program is designed for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins. What's New? The Tutorial Drive is a new Esperanza program! In an effort to make complicated processes on Wikipedia easier for everyone, Esperanza working to create and compile a list of tutorials about processes here on Wikipedia. Consider writing one! A discussion on how Esperanza relates to the encyclopedia has been started; please add your thoughts. Many thanks to MiszaBot, courtesy of Misza13, for delivering the newsletter.

The last AC meeting (full log) The list of proposed programs has been updated, with some proposals being archived. There is now a new program: the Tutorial Drive! Consider writing a tutorial on something you are good at doing on Wikipedia. The suggestion of adding a cohesive look to all the Esperanza pages is being considered; join the discussion if you are interested! In order to make a useful interlanguage welcome template, those involved in translation projects will be asked what English Wikipedia policies are most important and confusing to editors coming from other language Wikipedias. A discussion of Esperanza's role in Wikipedia is being held, with all thoughts of all Esperanzians wanted! Shreshth91 informed everyone that he will be leaving the Esperanza council as life is rather busy; his spot will be filled by the runner up from the last election, HighwayCello. Signed... Natalya, Banes, Celestianpower, EWS23, FireFox, The Halo, Shreshth91 and HighwayCello 20:33, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

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		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		I award this barnstar to user:ian13 because of his massive contribution to wikipedia and hope he enjoys that well deserved break!