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[Warnings issued in error] - FlightTime (open channel) 20:07, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

I fail to see how deleting some of the categories on Hecate's page isn't being constructive. I feel they are excessive and some really are inaccurate. For example, they state that she appears in the Aeneid but no reference to her appearing in that work appear on her page. Who's in charge of putting categories on pages anyway? I feel like it's easy to put categories on pages, but harder to remove them. Why?

Achuguayo's page says he is male, but for some reason the Lunar goddesses category was added instead of Lunar gods. I was trying to correct an obvious error. (Not my fault the page isn't sourced.)

There were categories on Dewi Sri's page that appeared to be inaccurate. She was listed as being an underworld and lunar goddess, but no sourced material on her page verified it. In fact, she solely seems to be a rice goddess. Why were those categories allowed to be added in the first place?

I also wasn't aware that editing the categories was a no-no; I thought I was allowed to edit those. And they really need editing. Some categories are attached to deities for the flimsiest reasons with little to no verification. If you're worried I'm a vandal, I'm not. I'm trying to make Wikipedia more accurate. Calling an obvious rice goddess a moon goddess for no reason is something a vandal (or neopagan) would do.

I'm sorry. I can only say I totally misunderstood your edits. Happy editing, - FlightTime (open channel) 20:07, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

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Hi. Just saw your dummy edit to techne. In general, accidentally marking something a-little-more-than-minor as minor isn't a big deal. Once you realize, it's sufficient to just stop doing that. Noting it with a dummy edit isn't necessary IMO. Perhaps if you overhauled the article and marked it as minor, but all you did was remove a category. The main thing I wanted to say, though, is that when doing a dummy edit it's best not to actually add text to that effect (even if it's commented out), because it creates work for someone else to remove it later. You can achieve a dummy edit, should you want to make one, by simply adding or removing a line break before/after a section header, between bulletpoints, between categories at the bottom, etc. It doesn't display any differently to anyone else, but it counts as a change. For example, changing:

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--Okay. Thanks. The only reason I made it was because on one of the help/rules pages, it said marking something as minor when it wasn't was a big no-no and to correct it by making a dummy edit. If that's no longer the case, then the page should be changed. Hse643 (talk) 03:03, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

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Hello, I'm Dcattell. Regarding your edit regarding "Kunlun (mythology)": the reason I reverted it was because it did more harm than good. You have a good case that some items could well be pared; however, in other cases the inclusion of these items has clear encyclopedic value. For example, the Category Kunlun Mountains is clearly important as it is the case that the mythological Kunlun has some relationship with the modern mountain range of Kunlun. Someone looking up the Kunlun Mountains should be able to go to the category Kunlun Mountains and easily connect to associated mythology (or vice versa). Similarly, many of the See also items which you wish to delete are quite evidently relevant. To begin alphabetically, the article "Axis mundi" clearly mentions Kunlun, and provides a general discussion of certain aspects of the topic. Did you even check whether this was the case, or did you just decide that you didn't know of a connection? Similarly, Chi (mythology) has a discussion of mythological beasts associated with Kunlun beyond those which are discussed in the "Kunlun (mythology)" article itself (as indicated in the See also comment). "Eight Pillars" discusses a general concept of Chinese mythology, that Heaven and Earth are held apart by eight "pillars", or mountains: one of these is Kunlun Mountain (as our readers may be so be informed, as long as the See also link is retained). Some of the See also links are of equal value, others could be dispensed with; but, your hand is too heavy here and should be more judicious. Please feel free to discuss this with me and/or other editors, and maybe we can all come to some agreement based on actual merits. Dcattell (talk) 01:05, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I deleted axis mundi because it's already linked in the article. Eight Pillars and all the other mountains are part of the List of mythological Chinese mountains link. It felt redundant to have all those mountain links plus the list. The article itself says the mythological Kunlun is often confused with the actual mountain range, but aside from the name there doesn't seem to be any further link between them. The mythological mountain is said to be a variety of different places, not necessarily where the real life range is located. Did a quick look over the chi article and thought it was only about an architectural decoration, but if it's actually relevant then ok. I do check to see if a link is relevant. I don't do shit randomly as you appear to think. Hse643 (talk) 02:48, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Hse643: I certainly not think that you "do shit randomly". My impression of you is that you are an eminently rational person and editor. That said, I have spent a lot more time on this article than you have. I don't have the time to do it right now, but if you want to revert my revert, I can eventually add back in the See also items which seem especially relevant. However, regarding the Category item, the modern geographical Kunlun and the mythological Kunlun are not only both linguistically related (sharing the Chinese term 崑崙/Kunlun), but also share a complex historical and cultural association which has lasted from prehistory until the present. The exact nature of this relationship is beyond the scope of anything except speculation, and not suited for an encyclopedia (although some things can be said); however, the fact that there is a relationship between the mythological Kunlun (崑崙) and the modern geographically designated Kunlun (崑崙) is modern sinological consensus. This fact is is of value to us as an encyclopedia; thus, I am convinced that this category item should remain. Dcattell (talk) 03:34, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

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