Lunar-akaunto

Stylisations and spacing

Regarding your edits to the Simple English Wikipedia: I don't know how the Manual of Style works there, but stylizing titles is something you were asked not to do before you were blocked in 2022, so if you are intending to edit in that area here, please follow MOS:JA, MOS:CT and MOS:CAPS. Japanese titles are frequently written in all caps or lowercase, and we should not mimic them. Type them normally. Daoko's song "HYPER GIRL -mukōgawa no onnanoko-" should be written as "Hyper Girl (Mukōgawa no Onnanoko)" here, as we typically render subtitles (the "Mukōgawa no Onnanoko" part of the title) that are put between hyphens or wave dashes in Japanese titles between parentheses or after a colon per MOS:JA. TOY'S FACTORY and KADOKAWA should be Toy's Factory and Kadokawa, respectively. Names of songs are put between quotation marks not italics here.

Another fiddly thing you were asked not to do is adding spaces around the words in headings. If the page has unspaced headings, e.g. ==Daoko==, don't add spaces to them, e.g. == Daoko == as this is usually a deliberate choice on the part of the creating editor to not space headings. I'd strongly suggest staying away from adjusting spacing at all. This is about the only "advice" I'm going to give you. Please do not resume posting to my talk page asking for advice. Ask another editor or post on the article's talk page. Ss112 08:42, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@User:Ss112 thank you for your message. yes, i am very aware of the manual of styles of en.wiki now, but those categorized manuals you linked above do not exist on simple.wiki, i tried looking on the normal page of manual of style there but it did not mention any of those, so, i edited on simple.wiki thinking that if there were any guidelines someone would link me to it, or revert it. my main motive was to create the article and add the information, i left the thing i was unsure about for the next editor, you can see that i even left a message at article "Hotarubi no Mori e" talk page on simple.wiki as i was unsure of whether to capitalize the romanized titles.

i did not know names of songs are put in quotes rather than italics, i added italics in simple.wiki, again, i did not know, i thought what to use but then added italics thinking it should not matter. but today earlier i was editing the article Yorushika and noticed this same thing, i saw the users before me used quotes, so, i used quotes too.

about the == == headline spacing you mentioned, i won't repeat it now that you have mentioned that to me. i did that thinking that it made it easier to read the heading in source editing mode, then i tried to look at templates on en.wiki / simple.wiki and wherever the heading was mentioned they used the spacing as == heading == instead of ==heading==, and it did not affect the way it was displayed, hence, i edited them. i won't do that again. i believe i have only done that at the article Yorushika here, should i revert it back to the way it was? i already followed the second thing you mentioned the moment i noticed, but worry not i will make sure to follow the other 2 as well. Lunar-akaunto／talk 10:53, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

No, it's fine. I'm talking about going forward it would probably be best to steer away from "adjusting" spacing if you didn't create the article or you're not clearly making it consistent. If one heading on the article isn't spaced but the rest are and you happen to notice it, by all means make it consistent and space it too. But I wouldn't edit articles solely to make heading spacing consistent (based on what most of the headings use), only as part of a more significant edit. Ss112 11:41, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I'll keep that in mind. About the stylisations, I was browsing your talk page, and saw one of the editors reported removing the notes for stylisations from articles. Up until now, I thought it was appropriate to at least list the stylisation in notes, or is that wrong to do so? From that, there's also all caps in the Daoko article I created on simple.wiki. I tried to reduce them from everywhere but the thing is the artist used 3 different aliases to publish her music, each varying in all small, all caps. I have only used it in the discography tables. should I mention it on the talk page? it is not something major but again I tried to reduce it wherever possible. Lunar-akaunto／talk 11:49, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

I think most parenthetical notes for stylisations are trivial. You'll find editors disagree on this—no MOS page explicitly encourages nor disallows stylisation notes. But I would advise against adding trivial stylisations that are only a different case of letter. As for the Simple English Wikipedia, I don't really care what happens there as I don't edit it. If you're unsure, post on a related talk page or ask at a WikiProject talk page there. Personally I don't think it's significant that she changed her name from "daoko" to "DAOKO" or the like as it's still the same word. If the change in case marked a change in her style and this was noted in sources, by all means it could be mentioned in prose. I don't know about the artist specifically; all that I've said about her thus far has been as an example, so I'm not the person to ask. Ss112 12:02, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Understood. Lunar-akaunto／talk 12:05, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

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May 2024

Hi Lunar-akaunto! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor at Ichizu/Sakayume that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Thank you. ayakanaa ( t ) 17:54, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Ayakanaa I believe you're referring to this edit? Well, moving "encore" to note does not change the meaning of the article, and from what I understand, it is the standard to move words like "live" or "encore" that are not part of the title to note. I forgot to do that in my previous edit, so I did it later. Lunar-akaunto／talk 02:26, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Also, you have replaced {{nihongo|}} with {{lang|}}, which is used for running text and not titles. You have also moved the native titles into notes; now I would definitely agree with this if there were no phrases like "encore" or literal translations for some titles that I have yet to add. See how Heikaishiki (閉会式; Encore) makes it look like "Encore" is the unofficial English translation for "閉会式". Lunar-akaunto／talk 02:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Minor edits are "superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute", yet we seem to disagree on the placement, so to my understanding that edit is not minor.

Where does it say that {{lang}} is not used for song titles? WP:MJ states that for just the Japanese script, {{lang}} and {{nihongo2}} can be used. I replaced it because no other parameters of {{nihongo}} were being used. I understand your concerns about the "encore" songs, but how do you propose it is fixed? Additionally, I feel that visually the Japanese rendering of the title would be better in the notes parameter. Best, ayakanaa ( t ) 02:45, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Apologies i think i misunderstood something. But i like to think of {{lang|}} as the parent template for {{lang-ja}}, which in turn can be used for any language; {{nihongo|}}, on the other hand, is exclusive to Japanese. Personally, I have never seen any articles use {{lang|}} for song titles, and even the example album Smile (L'Arc-en-Ciel album) listed in the Template:Track listing uses {{nihongo|}} over {{lang-ja|}} despite having no notes for Japanese titles. I have now edited the article to add the literal translations along with other changes, and I had to replace it as {{lang-ja}} does not support {{lit}}.

Definitely place them in notes if you feel that would be better, but i would suggest not doing that if phrases like "live", "encore", et cetera are present. Lunar-akaunto／talk 05:40, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply and the explanation. ayakanaa ( t ) 05:56, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

No problem. Lunar-akaunto／talk 11:41, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

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Now added. Lunar-akaunto／talk 15:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

File names

It would be very helpful to other users if you title the files you upload with English titles or the English translations of the works you're uploading. English titles are preferred on the English Wikipedia. Ss112 15:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Oh, but I only did it because it was the original file title, and I thought the covers could not be used anywhere else other than where I originally added them as they're non-free. Lunar-akaunto／talk 15:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

So, do i change the ones that i have uploaded until now? Lunar-akaunto／talk 17:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

@Ss112: You probably won't read this, but anyhow, i earlier requested file names to be changed, and all of the files have now been moved, replacing Japanese titles with English and reducing all typographical symbols not available on all language keyboards. Lunar-akaunto／talk 14:46, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

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 Fixed. Lunar-akaunto／talk 18:07, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Vinland Saga music

I removed the image as you mentioned but don't you think there might be better to call the new article "Discography of Vinland Saga" kinda like List of Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle albums or Bocchi the Rock! discography. Then again, I'm not good with music articles.Tintor2 (talk) 18:22, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

@Tintor2: Sorry, didn't give this much thought when creating, but i can agree that listing everything in one article would be much better. Maybe Music of Vinland Saga would do? Lunar-akaunto／talk 03:19, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

I have moved it along with the music section from Vinland Saga (TV series). I am not sure just how much to summarise the same in the main article; please look into it and summarise as appropriate. Lunar-akaunto／talk 03:47, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. Nice work with exanding the first opening theme article. Making a music article in general is better than soundtracks due to limited real world information that could leave it as a stub. I never heard of soundtracks selling a lot but single songs tend to be pretty famous. Tintor2 (talk) 20:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

@Tintor2: Oh, you noticed. I only did a little cleanup, though; most of it remains your work. I just create or edit anything that I like and that can meet the notability criteria. I understand that notability for criteria is different for albums. I think I have only created three soundtrack articles: Belle–because it was disrupting the flow of the main film article but also because it easily passes the notability criteria. Vinland, which is now merged, and Jujutsu—because it too disrupted the flow of the main article but also because i have spotted several interviews for both seasons' soundtracks. I didn't expand because i thought to do it later, which i never did, but I'll try to do it soon. I'll let you know once i do. Lunar-akaunto／talk 11:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

File:Red Swan (feat. HYDE) - Single.jpg

Requested move declined, if you want a .png version you'll have to upload a new version in that format or refile to move as is. - FlightTime (open channel) 15:04, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

@FlightTime: Oh. I only said so because the original file is in .png format; changing it to .jpg would lose some contents, right? Maybe unnoticeable, but surely. I tried to upload a new version, but it didn't let me because the file extensions do not match. So, do i just upload a new file then? Lunar-akaunto／talk 15:16, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

It's technically impossible to move a file to a different file extension, the only way to do that is to upload a new version. - FlightTime (open channel) 15:58, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

@FlightTime: Understood. Thank you for your help. Lunar-akaunto／talk 17:20, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

You're very welcome. - FlightTime (open channel) 20:38, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you!

		The Music Barnstar
		Thank you Lunar-akaunto for making the article Music of Attack on Titan! After making articles for many of the series' songs a few months ago, this article has been on my to-do list for a while, and I'm happy to see it get made. Cheers! Johnson524 18:59, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

My first barnstar! Thank you. Lunar-akaunto／talk 02:10, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Is it really? I'm glad to be able to do that for you then! You deserve it 🙂 Johnson524 03:04, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

A message before leaving

Thank you for trying to make that discussion a meaningful one. I may have one final suggestion for that issue, after so I will step back for a while no matter the result. I will contribute elsewhere, but I'm afraid that will be zhWiki not enWiki, I cannot do both with my limited time. I wish to ask you for a little favor, if in the future circumstances changes or you know an editor who may help me with the issue, please leave a message on my UT. I will do whatever I can to "fix the problem" as long as I am still active on Wiki, sometimes there are things that I feel are too wrong to be ignored, especially when a change can actually be made. Sohryu Asuka Langley Not Shikinami (talk) 01:41, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

@Sohryu Asuka Langley Not Shikinami: Yes, I know you are active at zh.wiki, which is why i said Wikipedia. What do you mean by a final suggestion? By issue, if you mean the naming issue, you can just subscribe to those topics, and if someone posts there, you'll know, or you can just have the talk page on your watchlist. Lunar-akaunto／talk 05:28, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

original research

L-a, you seem focussed on pushing the article about ANI to extreme language. I get that you're pissed about the lawsuit, but we don't punish article subjects for criticizing or even filing lawsuits against WMF. Valereee (talk) 19:19, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Ahem, how is this in any way whatsoever original research? I'm just writing what the sources say. I have only ever made one edit^[1] to the article before this (which too aligns with WP:NPOV)—so, to say I'm focused on pushing the article to extreme language is not assuming good faith. But i would assume it for you. To reiterate, my reasoning for the revert is the same as the edit summary; subbing the sub-heading as "affiliation with Indian government" undervalues the sources' wording, as well as WP:NPOV, and is not even the proper use of the word "affiliation".

Perhaps one could argue about terming it as such if the sub-heading in question discussed anything other than ANI's propaganda? So, has it? No. But here's also an easy way to go about it, like reading all the 4 sources listed in the sub-heading and UCS.

You're right about me not being very happy about the whole ANI situation, but i have made sure not to let it affect me editing Wikipedia with neutrality. Lunar-akaunto／talk 06:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Your comment

This comment] was apparently discussed in the court [1] - Ratnahastin (talk) 12:02, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ...do you agree with what i said? I mean, i said what i said based on what i could infer from the situation. Lunar-akaunto／talk 13:55, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

“This is only to demonstrate to your Lordship, the mischief that this is being used against private parties and the court. And what your Lordship saw is that they’re pleading that this is a general encyclopedia,” said Kumar. - ANI's counsel is very cleverly trying to portray everyone and everything written on Wikipedia as being associated with WMF( the defendant in lawsuit) perhaps in an attempt to create an impression of wikipedia attacking the court which is contemptuous. - Ratnahastin (talk) 07:07, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

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