Side templates for the presidential candidates are reviewed here. Quote, "The result of the debate was deletion of side templates, no consensus for others." RyanGerbil10(Говорить!) 01:00, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
My argument was, "Wikipedia should keep its readers and users in mind. Thus, when it comes to text, excess redundancy is bad, in order to ease readers' burden. But when it comes to navigation stuff, some measure of redundancy is good, to ease users' burden, while they try to figure out how to navigate among related pages." And, "Many articles have both a Wikiproject navigation sidebar and a horizontal navigation banner. If we delete here we'll need to go throughout Wikipedia and hamper its user friendliness wholesale (e/g at random I went to American Civil War and President of the United States which both have nav sidebars (the Civil War article, even a portal midside) along with horizontal nav banners at the bottom with so many, many Wikipedia articles that are members of a series doing the same."
But I was the only person to see it that way. E/g, Bobblehead argued, "...there isn't a reason to have two navigation boxes for the same person that do the same thing, just different locations...." --Justmeherenow (talk) 03:33, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm pasting the following from my user talkpage to here. --Justmeherenow (talk) 16:18, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
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I see you are adding a Rudy Giuliani "segments" nav box similar to what has been done for John McCain. However, there is a difference. In the McCain case, his entire biographical account has been broken down into subarticles, which read in sequence form a detailed biography. Hence the "Life of John McCain" title in the nav box. With Giuliani, that is not the case; only three periods of his life are represented in subarticles, with other parts (early life, prosecutor, post-mayoral businessman, etc) only described in the main article. Thus, reading the subarticles in sequence will not give you the "life" of Giuliani. Therefore, I don't think this approach is valid for Giuliani (or most other political figures we have articles for). Wasted Time R (talk) 15:43, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- WP guidelines say not to delete work in progress towards improving Wikipedia --Justmeherenow (talk) 15:49, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Nobody's talking about deleting anything. I'm just saying I think you are misapplying what was done for McCain to the Giuliani articles, and I wanted to give you the rationale for its use in the McCain case. Another article that uses this "Life of ..." nav sequence is Jan Smuts. Wasted Time R (talk) 16:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'm pasting this discussion to templates' talkpages. Thx --Justmeherenow (talk) 16:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Nobody's talking about deleting anything. I'm just saying I think you are misapplying what was done for McCain to the Giuliani articles, and I wanted to give you the rationale for its use in the McCain case. Another article that uses this "Life of ..." nav sequence is Jan Smuts. Wasted Time R (talk) 16:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
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