Template:Did you know nominations/Frances Spatz Leighton
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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 00:10, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
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Frances Spatz Leighton
- ... that Frances Spatz Leighton became known as the "Queen of Female Ghosts" for ghostwriting numerous memoirs? Source: [1]
- Comment: Definitely other alts possible
Created by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:06, 12 December 2020 (UTC).
- My internet is running slow today, so an earwig check isn't really an option, but I've worked with this nominator before and am confident that close paraphrasing is not an issue. Meets the general DYK criteria, such as reliable sources, cited, age, length, etc. However, I do have one issue here: the nickname is supported inline, but the reason for the nickname is not directly addressed in the article. Tweak this, and it'll be good to go. Hog Farm Bacon 03:09, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Hog Farm. I've tweaked the phrasing in the article so that it hopefully lines up better (source says "memoirs of the famous have earned her the title", FWIW. I also QPQ'd Template:Did you know nominations/The Trouble With Gravity. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 16:28, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Hog Farm Bacon 23:14, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, I came by to promote this, but am trying to figure out how she got from "Frances Ornstein" to "Frances Spatz Leighton". This article could use a Personal Life section. You're quoting a source that says her husband was a Senate staffer, but the LA Times source names a husband as
retired Air Force Col. Kendall King Hoyt
. Where did she get all her names? Additionally, IMDb is saying she was born in 1920; can you find a reliable source for that? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:37, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, Yoninah her personal life is remarkably lacking and here's why: I looked into who the supposed Kendall King Hoyt was, and I don't know where the Times got their info from, but there's no mention of that in any other source- in fact, a Kendall King Hoyt married someone else in 1930. this Chicago Tribune article mentions Leighton and Hoyt together, but not that they are married-- wouldn't they have seen fit to include a mention if they were? There's similar sourcing to the Chicago Tribune article in a couple other places. I suspect that she was married twice, since we know the first time was six years and the second time presumably to Hoyt, but I've had no luck finding it-- in large part because one of her most famous books is I married a Psychiatrist, filling all the search results. Her names are a bit of a mystery to me, given that the only source that even puts "Frances Ornstein" and "leighton" together is the LA obit. These are question's I've been completely unable to answer.I suspect IMDB pulled the 1920 birth from the LA times obit (2007 - 87), but that isn't really a good way of ascertaining birth dates- I've found no source relating to it. It's been remarkably frustrating for me-- but then again, I guess it's nice to find a woman whose notability is completely independent from any man. I've added a mention of Hoyt to the article, but I'm unable to specify any further, unfortunately. If DYK doesn't allow articles with an incomplete part of the picture, oh well. I suppose this may be the end of the road. Cheers and happy holidays, Eddie891 Talk Work 23:14, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
