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"Ratings"
editThe ratings section is pointless. It has one rating, and absolutely no context on what it means or why we should care about that rating. It is nothing but an unhelpful and unsubstantiated factoid, and at most it belongs in a trivia section. I've re-removed it, and it shouldn't be readded unless it can be readded in a way that improves the article. It doesn't now. —Cleared as filed. 15:09, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- It isn't contextless. There is a rating for every single major league ballpark.--J3wishVulcan 15:54, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- Although pointless, it should be noted that ESPN named Comiskey to be one of the worst ballparks in the nation :p [1] --ShadowJester07 02:59, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
- This ESPN article is from 2003, prior to many of the changes that have been made in the stadium, making it a far better place that it was 3 years ago --rogerd 05:18, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
- An excellent point, and grounds for zapping all 30 of them on the various ballpark pages. Not only are they subjective, they are significantly out of date. Wahkeenah 06:03, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
- This ESPN article is from 2003, prior to many of the changes that have been made in the stadium, making it a far better place that it was 3 years ago --rogerd 05:18, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
'The Cell'
editWho calls it 'The Cell'? I don't know of anyone who calls it that... hell, we still call it Comiskey in Chicagoland, including staff at Comiskey... Ameise -- chat 13:52, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- everyone calls it the cell now
Go Sox!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--Arusnak 19:19, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
- Indeed, indeed. IvoShandor 05:44, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- Definitely, the Cell is one of it's most popular nicknames. I just added "Sox Park," since that's one of it's more popular nicknames as well. As we've moved past the sale of the naming rights (and the fact that the White Sox won a World Series there and hosted an All-Star Game), only the lamest of the lame still refer to it as "Comiskey Park." Get over it, already! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.214.85.173 (talk) 07:43, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Intro
editthe intro is too large. Portions of it shold be put as subheadings before the renovations --Arusnak 19:22, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Picture
editUpdated picture anyone? The stadium really does look a lot nicer in my opinion with all the green seats. Anyone who has been to a game this year would likely agree. Much more classic look.
New picture added. IvoShandor 11:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Why on earth would you put that gray skied picture at the top? I don't really care but the other pic was obviously better. IvoShandor 20:30, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- Not only was it not good it is also extrememly outdated. Don't add it back to the top of the page please. IvoShandor 20:34, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Comiskey through the years?
editMaybe it would be a good idea to provide some older pictures of Comiskey Park, before the extensive renovations, to demonstrate how much the park has been improved. 64.201.77.207 16:01, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
- We have the one from 05, I would encourage anyone who has older photos to upload them if they are free use. IvoShandor 20:28, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:USCellularFieldLogo150.PNG
editImage:USCellularFieldLogo150.PNG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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Inconsistency
editThere is an inconsistency in the number of wins in the 2008 season. In the "White Sox Record at Home" section it is listed as 89 wins. In "Attendance" it is 88 wins. I'd fix it, but neither of these has citations. Can someone more interested in this page resolve the problem?--Silpion (talk) 21:55, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
picture
editAny pictures from 2009 of the stadium to add and replace the main one from 2007? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.163.4.29 (talk) 05:01, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Photograph of facade
editI put together a photograph showing changes of the front facade. I did not upload it because:
- I can't, I'm an IP
- The second photograph has not had copyrights secured. It is from deadballbaseball.com and I think it would be best to ask the owner for permission to use this photograph. Because there might be some parts of the policy I don't know about (such as the specific license), I haven't sent any emails, but if someone would like to ask for permission (then, perhaps upload it), I would appreciate it.
Here it is, I hope nothing bad will happen just for posting it on imageshack.
Now, onto the real photo. Here are some changes you'll notice:
- The large concrete deck has been replaced with a smaller steel and glass deck.
- The temporary-looking (so it must be 2003) banner showing the name has been replaced with a more permanent engraving.
- Stars have been painted on the central window.
- How about those telephone wires right in front of the structure?
The upper deck looks smaller, and in 2004 the upper deck was decreased in capacity, so the renovations that led to these changes must have been in 2004. --67.180.161.183
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05:07, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Chicago Rockets?
editUndid recent anonymous edit "Also the Cubs and the Chicago Rockets."
It may or may not be notable, but it needs rewriting, a reference, and it probably does not belong in the lede. On a hunch, it torns out this IP (http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.13.37.92) is making a number of similar edits on various ballpark sites of similar qualityTjoeC (talk) 03:52, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Requested move
edit- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: not moved. DrKiernan (talk) 17:19, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
U.S. Cellular Field → Comiskey Park – According to many sources, the sponsor deal was to last from 2003 to 2012. The deal has expired and therefore it should naturally revert to its orginal name. Rt31914 (talk) 22:59, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose. Not sure which sources you're referring to, but the team's site still calls it U.S. Cellular Field. Calidum Talk To Me 00:22, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose Per the previous comment, the White Sox website still refers to it as U.S. Cellular Field as do other third-party sources like ESPN. The only potential change would be if Sprint decides to rename the park for them since they bought U.S. Cellular's share of the Chicago market. --JonRidinger (talk) 01:31, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose no justification. Check out whitesox.com. --rogerd (talk) 04:56, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose and
speedy close.. @Rt31914: I don't know what "sources" these are you're referring to, but this source says the deal signed in 2003 was for 20 years, and that the name won't change even though Sprint bought U.S. Cellular's Chicago operations. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:31, 21 August 2014 (UTC) - Support, per the state of affairs of Joe Robbie Stadium getting renamed every few years. AutomobileDealer (talk) 18:12, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Please do not change the comments others leave. Muboshgu left his comment at "Oppose and speedy close" and you changed it to "strong oppose" which is not the same thing. Further, a stadium being renamed every few years is irrelevant, especially since that's not the case for this stadium. U.S. Cellular Field has been in place as a name for 11 years already and will be in place at least another 9. Even so, Joe Robbie Stadium is at Sun Life Stadium, which is in line with other active stadium article titles. --JonRidinger (talk) 18:21, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose and speedy close You can't move the renamed New Comiskey Park over the Old Comiskey Park.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOURWP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:50, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Support, per WP:COMMONNAME. I believe many fans still call it New Comiskey Park, but I could be wrong. The Sun Life deal expires in 2015, by the way. Wikipedia is not a restaurant so I suggest we wait a few days before we close. 131.239.63.5 (talk) 20:09, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Sun Life Stadium has no relevance here. I struck the speedy close, which I suggested while this was still unanimous. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:24, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- i don't know about you, but I feel the frequent renaming of Miami stadium is relivant.
- Sun Life Stadium has no relevance here. I struck the speedy close, which I suggested while this was still unanimous. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:24, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Support, on condition that the ballpark is referred more by the destination name. The point of the discussion is to find the most popular name that best fits the article. Do people call it Comiskey Park more or do they refer it to US Cellular Field? 71.250.249.254 (talk) 20:04, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
- That would depend on reliable sources, not simple word of mouth or other anecdotal evidence. As has been previously mentioned, the White Sox website refers to it as US Cellular Field as do third-party media outlets like ESPN and the Chicago Tribune. --JonRidinger (talk) 20:17, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
Again, please refrain from editing others' comments. Correcting a spelling mistake is one thing, but changing the content, even in a small way, is entirely another and is never appropriate. The fact that AutomobileDealer and then a supporting anonymous editor have both edited comments posted by others is not a good sign.
Also, WP:COMMONNAME doesn't apply to simple colloquial usage of a term; it needs to have sources to back up the claim that an alternate name is widely used, more than the official name. I don't doubt that many still call it "New Comiskey" or just "Comiskey Park" (which is common for just about any facility that gets renamed), but the sources, both primary and secondary, are what determines the name of an article, and those sources overwhelmingly use the current name. --JonRidinger (talk) 03:33, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
- This is a malformed request. To nom or supporters of a move: what is supposed to happen to the Old Comiskey Park article? — AjaxSmack 01:18, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- this was posted to the wrong talk page and should redirect here. As for the old ballpark, that would be moved to Comiskey Park (1910), like Yankee Stadium (1923) RT 11:23, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose for lack of evidence.. If the official rename were proven, then, yes, move the current Comiskey Park to Comiskey Park (1910) and move this article to Comiskey Park, or make a disambiguation page, or something. It would not be appropriate to retain the U.S. Cellular Field promotional name any longer than necessary for accuracy. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 11:20, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Renaming
editThe sources indicate the name change to Guaranteed Rate Field will occur at the conclusion of the 2016 season. The move of this page shouldn't happen before then. All secondary sources are still referring to the park by the U.S. Cellular name (including the White Sox own website) and the signage is still in place. --JonRidinger (talk) 05:23, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
- Agree It's not suppose to occur until November 1, 2016 according to the press release. Why are we jumping the gun?