Talk:Stabbing as a terrorist tactic

My Reverted Edit

[Moved here from my talkpage -- DeFacto (talk). 12:52, 1 January 2019 (UTC)]

Why did you revert my adding of the stabbing at Manchester victoria to the list? This was suggested on #wikipedia-en IRC. RhinosF1 (talk) 12:50, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Because you didn't provide a reliable source to support the implied assertion of fact that it is a terrorism-related stabbing attack. -- DeFacto (talk). 12:54, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Done, I've used an official police statement that states it is being treated as a terrorist investigation. RhinosF1 (talk) 12:58, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

That doesn't confirm it as having been a "terrorism-related stabbing attack", all that does is confirm that the police are undertaking a terrorist investigation. Please wait for their findings before jumping to your own conclusions. -- DeFacto (talk). 13:05, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

It is true that the police have said that they are treating this as a terrorism investigation, but until we see the results of their investigation we do not know whether it will turns out to actually be one. For now, per WP:BLPCRIME, we cannot assert that is was. -- DeFacto (talk). 17:01, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

• Keep it on the page as long as police are treating it as terrorism Manchester Victoria station stabbings 'a terrorist investigation'. When the authorities stop treating it as terrorism, it can be removed.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:10, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

So your preference is for guilty until proven innocent? That contravenes WP:BLPCRIME. -- DeFacto (talk). 17:11, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

My preference is for trusting statements made by the British counterterrorism police.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:21, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

The police don't decide guilt, or even whether a crime has been committed, they just do the investigation. In the UK, without a conviction we do not assume guilt. -- DeFacto (talk). 17:31, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Due to the decision to detain him under the Mental Health Act, I would now oppose it remaining in the page until he recives a formal verdict in trial or it is decided that he no longer is eligble for detention under that reguation (and it is changed to a offence under the Terrorism Act 2000. RhinosF1 (talk) 08:55, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 14 August 2019

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The result of the move request was: no consensus (closed by non-admin page mover) Calidum 20:27, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

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Stabbing as a terrorist tactic → Stabbing attack – It's a shorter and less cumbersome name for the topic. As you can notice, the article refers to it as a "stabbing attack" in its lead and list. Take a note that the similarly named article "Vehicle ramming as a terrorism tactic" was renamed to "Vehicle-ramming attack" back in 2016. Russian Rocky (talk) 15:49, 14 August 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. BDD (talk) 19:40, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

• Comment, pondering supporting a move as I feel the extended title referring to terrorism is somewhat redundant, given wikipedia's own article on Terrorism describes it as: "the use of intentional violence, generally against civilians, for political purposes", which "stabbing attack" may constitute. My issue is whether a "stabbing attack" could also be considered in isolated incidents without a premeditated aspect to it or without the political motivations that terrorism is associated with, which then may not constitute a form of terrorism. The proposed article title may therefore be a little ambiguous but I agree that condensing is worth considering. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:27, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose and consider merging with Stabbing. Aside from the long list of incidents, there isn't that much meat in either this article or stabbing, so it doesn't seem that having them separate is warranted. Either way, "stabbing attack" doesn't describe the content of the article as it is at present, since it is only concerned with terrorist attacks, not with more general stabbings.  — Amakuru (talk) 18:00, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

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Renaming the entry

Should this page be renamed to either Terrorist stabbings or Terror butcherings?

2401:7400:6002:673E:FDF1:FF52:9B9B:E7C4 (talk) 09:33, 24 June 2022 (UTC)