Talk:Shachar Sagiv

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Kingsif talk 03:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

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Sagiv in 2022

• ... that Shachar Sagiv, who is slated to represent Israel at the 2024 Summer Olympics in the triathlon, is a brother of Ran Sagiv and a son of Shemi Sagiv, both of whom are former Olympians?

• Source: Supporting articles are here (Triathlon Start List for the Paris 2024 Olympics) and here (that the brother and father are Olympians).

• Reviewed: Tobie Goedewaagen and Victory Vertical
• Comment: Nominated by Schwede66 on behalf of an IP editor, who will also provide the QPQ.

5x expanded by 2603:7000:2101:AA00:DD64:E22E:2B9C:8DC (talk) and Schwede66 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 145 past nominations.

Schwede66 03:02, 11 June 2024 (UTC).

• Although the hook is shorter than 200 characters (at 185 characters), it does seem pretty long and a bit hard to read. I understand it might be difficult to compress the hook into a more concise one, but if that's possible I would suggest doing so anyway. Otherwise, another concern I have is that it's not exactly that uncommon for Olympic athletes to be relatives of other Olympians, and in any case the hook seems more to do with Sagiv's family than he himself. I'd like to see more suggestions that are more about Sagiv himself. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:51, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm a well-known athletics hook hater, but this one is actually unusual and interesting, IMO. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 06:03, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Actually, it’s indeed rare to have two Olympians who are brothers and who also have a father who is an Olympian. And there is ample coverage of this fact in RSs in regard to him and his family precisely because it is notable. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:C1F0:2A4D:7D90:217B (talk) 08:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

To shorten the hook even further than 185 characters, though I think 185 is appropriately concise, one might consider changing the lead-in of the hook to "that triathlete Shachar Sagiv, who will represent Israel at the 2024 Summer Olympics ..." That would bring the character count down 11, to a tidy 174, 26 characters short of the limit.

In addition, we can bold Ran Sagiv and make the hook about his 5x expansion as well.2603:7000:2101:AA00:A407:4587:FBA9:6E1B (talk) 04:54, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that triathlete Shachar Sagiv, who will represent Israel at the 2024 Summer Olympics in the triathlon, is a brother of Ran Sagiv and a son of Shemi Sagiv, both of whom are former Olympians?

You'd have to provide another QPQ, but if you do, we can certainly run this as a double hook. Schwede66 00:36, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Assuming that this will be good to go at some point, I suggest that this be run on 30 July. See Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Olympic hooks table. Schwede66 01:23, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

ALT1 looks good. I will provide another QPQ. Also, run on 30 July makes good sense. Thanks. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:D4A:2D60:FB7D:680A (talk) 20:06, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Don't forget about the second QPQ. Schwede66 04:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

• ALT1a: ... that triathlete Shachar Sagiv, who will represent Israel at the 2024 Summer Olympics in the triathlon, is a brother of Ran Sagiv and a son of Shemi Sagiv, both of whom are former Olympians?

Our IP editor might have fallen off the edge of earth. Without a second QPQ, I suggest we unbolden Ran Sagiv and proceed with ALT1a. Narutolovehinata5, are you happy to sign this off on this basis? Schwede66 04:32, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Apologies. Real life interfered. I've now also done a qpq on Victory Vertical. ALT1 looks good. Thanks.2603:7000:2101:AA00:1C0D:29BD:F02A:DC84 (talk) 23:42, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

New reviewer needed. Z1720 (talk) 01:44, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

• Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:38, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. ALT1 approved. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Once approved, please place this nomination in the Olympics: Special occasion holding area