Talk:XellOs

Requested move 15 January 2016

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 05:28, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

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XellOs → Seo Ji-hun – He is well known as real name now. Kanghuitari (talk) 04:51, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

• Support either that or Xellos (videogamer) per MOS:TM/MOS:CAPS -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 07:58, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
  • XellOs is probably okay per WP:CAMELCASE, provided that it's the WP:COMMONNAME--Prisencolin (talk) 23:57, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
• Support real name. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:17, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

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Requested move 28 February 2022

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Result:
Moved per consensus garnered below. Closure requested <permalink>. Thanks and kudos to all editors for your input, and Happy, Healthy Editing! P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 17:52, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

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Seo Ji-hun (gamer) → XellOs – Per WP:COMMONNAME. He is not "known by his real name now", and "real name" is not a reason to override COMMONNAME. Esports players are known by their handles, not their real name, and anyone looking for this person would certainly search XellOs, and not Seo Ji-hun. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 17:18, 28 February 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. ---CX Zoom(^he/_him) (^{let's talk}|_contribs) 16:11, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose - in almost every case, when an esports player is introduced in a mainstream reliable source, it is their real name that is used (or often in "Firstname 'Handle' Lastname" style). This should translate to Wikipedia defaulting to use of their real name as primary introduction in the title. COMMONNAME is not sledgehammer that overrides good clear style, and a gamer handle is not really a "name" per se. -- Netoholic @ 01:29, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

  I disagree with this stance. A gamertag is a name -- it's the name most fans refer to them as. Sources will either:

  1. Refer to them once as Firstname "Handle" Lastname, and there after only refer to them by their handle, or
  2. Only refer the them by their handle.

  Never do they only refer to them by their actual name. Not to mention, this is the convention adopted by nearly every other esports player article on Wikipedia. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 02:21, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

  No where did I say they "only refer" to them by real name. That's silly. What I said is that they introduce them by their real name initially. So should Wikipedia - accomplished by using real name in the title and lead line initially. -- Netoholic @ 06:42, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

  That could easily be done by introducing the real name in the lead line, while having the title be at the more common name. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 22:54, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

• Support. StarCraft players are known almost solely by the handles in literature on the topic. This isn't a case of the media being weird; they refer to each other and themselves by the handles too, not the real names. There is no reason not to accord the same deference to gamer handles as Wikipedia already does to author pennames, actor screennames, or other people publicly known by something that isn't their birthname. See Mark Twain, George Eliot, etc. SnowFire (talk) 05:04, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

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