Talk:Roger Williams

Roger Williams Avenue in Highland Park, Illinois

Maybe add Roger Williams Avenue in Highland Park, Illinois to the list of tributes. [1]. Jidanni (talk) 13:56, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Roger Williams Medical Center

Roger Williams Medical Center in providence, Rhode Island should be added to the list of tributes

ref: https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Roger_Williams_Medical_Center 68.9.117.40 (talk) 14:29, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

"Native American" vs "Indian", etc.

@Dilidor: Per our previous discussion at Talk:New England Colonies#'Native Americans' vs 'Indians', I disagree with your attempts to remove all uses of the term 'Native American' from this article. The sources cited in the 'Slavery' subsection use both 'Indian' and 'Native American'. I am also curious why systematically removed the word 'escapee' from that section. Could you explain your rationale? CoatGuy2 (talk) 17:30, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

I have addressed the Indian question sufficiently in our previous conversations. An "escapee" would be the person or thing being escaped from; an "escaper" would be the person who escapes. "Escaper" strikes me as odd and intrusive, perhaps not even a legitimate word, so I strove to reword those phrases. Hope that clarifies.

Dilidor (talk) 17:46, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

1. Per Merriam-Webster: escapee (noun): one that has escaped

2. You've answered the question, but I'm not convinced by your answers. '"Native American" simply means "a person who was born in America"'. I don't think there's any confusion in an average reader's over what Native American means; it's certainly no more confusing than 'Indian', which could mean American Indian, West Indian, or East Indian (i.e. South Asian). I'm quite certain that most readers don't think of the Nativist definition when they hear 'Native American'. 'in historical articles it is customary to use the terminology that was contemporaneous to the topic'. Contemporaneous language obviously isn't universally applied to a wide swath of articles; try applying the contemporaneous language to Chinese Exclusion Act and Booker T. Washington outside of direct quotes and proper nouns and see where it gets you. Aside from that, what you describe as contemporaneous language is actually just the language of the colonists; erasing all synonyms for 'Indian' may very well bias the language toward the colonists' perspective, given that Native Americans use a variety of terms to describe themselves. Since we're at an impasse across several pages, I'm going to submit this issue to Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard. CoatGuy2 (talk) 21:53, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Follow up: the closer at DRN noted to have a look at the Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(ethnicities_and_tribes)#Naming_conventions:_Native,_Indigenous,_Indian,_etc. guidelines, which state Native American in most Wikipedia articles and categories refers to the Indigenous peoples of the United States.... You should probably discuss your preference for wholesale changes to 'Indian' before you continue making them across a wide swath of articles. CoatGuy2 (talk) 13:33, 9 August 2023 (UTC)