Talk:Radio Quarantine Kolkata

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Latest comment: 1 year ago by Sammi Brie in topic GA Review

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk16:22, 23 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

  • ... that Radio Quarantine was founded by a group of professors, directors and PhD students in response to social isolation protocols following the outbreak of the coronavirus pandemic? Source: Bhattacharya, Ravik (26 March 2020). "Radio Quarantine an antidote for anxieties in time of isolation". The Indian Express.

Created by Tayi Arajakate (talk). Self-nominated at 12:27, 5 January 2021 (UTC).Reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:   - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting:  
QPQ: Done.
Overall:   Earwig report checks out. ALT1 source is paywalled, but the original hook source is accessible. Both hooks are within 200 characters, but can probably be shortened. Joofjoof (talk) 22:26, 22 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 04:55, 31 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)


I'm glad to see the split as it resolves the main topic issue—I would have had a 3a/3b issue. I see the sources were just as bad at conflating the two projects, too—the images headlining some of these articles freely mix and match! I sometimes have to do similar splits in my topic area. Please feel free to challenge my copy changes if they go against Indian English.
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):  
    I have a fair number of copy issues.
    b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):  
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a. (reference section):  
    b. (citations to reliable sources):  
    I am assuming Forbes India does not have the same contributor/staff issues as Forbes U.S.
    c. (OR):  
    d. (copyvio and plagiarism):  
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a. (major aspects):  
    Is there any material on station activity in 2022/23? Obviously their original content seems to have become much more sporadic and the notability a bit faded, but I would like to ask.
    b. (focused):  
    Is there too much coverage/topic of the May Day Bangladesh collaboration?
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):  
    Only one image is used, which is the non-free logo with NFUR.
    b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):  
  7. Overall:
    Pass/fail:  
    There is a lot of copy cleanup. I have a question about a name rendered two different ways, and I also would like to see if there is anything about station activity past late 2021. 7-day hold; the issues seem fixable. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 04:55, 31 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

(Criteria marked   are unassessed)

Sammi Brie, sorry for being a bit late getting to this. I've addressed the issues listed below. Tell me what you think.
Regarding the above comments; Forbes India is unrelated to Forbes U.S., their only relation is that the parent company of Forbes India is using the brand name under a franchise agreement. It has other issues though and I normally wouldn't use it for most topics, but most of the information related to the topic here is bland uncontroversial material so I think it's fine. I have also looked quite a bit and haven't found any secondary source covering them in the 2022/23 period. And I don't think the May Day Bangladesh collaboration coverage is too much, as in it's reflective of the overall coverage; The Caravan article is the most in-depth on the topic and they cover it extensively. It can also appear a bit stark as it occupies a significant portion of the "history" section (being the only specific event) while the rest is all general/regular programmes and shows that are placed in the "format and shows" section. Tayi Arajakate Talk 19:28, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Tayi Arajakate I still think it can be trimmed down. Everything else looks fine—just want to see a bit less emphasis on this Bangladesh item. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 23:55, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Sammi Brie, I've trimmed it a bit, see if this works. Tayi Arajakate Talk 05:46, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Copy changes

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  • I would prefer "radio station" instead of "radio" as a noun. "A radio" to me is a receiver, not a station. Is this an Indian English issue? (It crops up multiple times)
Yes, it is, "radio" and "radio station" can be used interchangeable in Indian English. Just "radio" can also mean a receiver but one can figure out what it means from the context. Tayi Arajakate Talk 14:01, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

History

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  • The group was formed after the Government of West Bengal had announced that a lockdown in the state was to be imposed and its launch coincided with the sudden imposition of the national lockdown by the Prime Minister Narendra Modi
    • This has a classic User:Sammi Brie/Commas in sentences (CinS) issue. There are two subjects here: "group" and "launch". Add a comma after "imposed"
    • No need for a definite article "the" before "Prime Minister Narendra Modi"
 Y Done.
  • The broadcast were hosted on the free of cost radio streaming platform ZenoRadio, and went live from 4 pm onwards on 25 March.
    • Should read "Broadcasts were" or "broadcast was"
    • "Free of cost" should be hyphenated as an adjective, "free-of-cost"
    • This sentence has a comma that should be removed for CinS purposes. (Broadcast is the only subject)
    • Remove "onwards"
 Y Done. Except I've retained the "onwards" to give the impression that it has been live since then as it's a 24/7 radio and to avoid the impression that it comes live at 4pm on a regular basis/daily. Tell me if you think my concern is misplaced. Tayi Arajakate Talk 12:44, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
  • Remove "the" before "Jadavpur University"
 Y Done.
  • Spell out "nine" in "first 9 days"
 Y Done.
  • On May Day, the station held a collaboration with the Udichi Shilpi Goshti, the largest cultural organisation in Bangladesh and hosted a show featuring revolutionary songs and commemorated the 1886 Haymarket massacre by chronicling its history.
    • This sentence probably needs a split or a semicolon. Right now, the appositive the largest cultural organisation in Bangladesh is incomplete. Try this:
    • On May Day, the station held a collaboration with Udichi Shilpi Goshti, the largest cultural organisation in Bangladesh; it hosted a show featuring revolutionary songs and commemorated the 1886 Haymarket massacre by chronicling its history.
 Y Done.
  • due lack of regulations or an labour union should be due to lack of regulations or a labour union — note the added "to" and the fixed a/an issue
 Y Done.
  • "made situation" needs a "the"
 Y Done.
  • Is there a citation for Basu's quote?
It is present in The Caravan article cited at the end of the paragraph. Though on a second look, I think the quote doesn't quite give the context to someone uninformed on the background. Tagore is considered a central figure in Bengal literature and the quote is a reference to the 1969 East Pakistan mass uprising and the Bangladesh Liberation War against the dictatorships of Ayub Khan and Yahya Khan who had used a policy of Islamization (among other things including the later Bangladesh genocide) which attempted to suppress Bengali identity in an attempt to forge a new homogenous Pakistani one. So do you think I should replace the quote? Tayi Arajakate Talk 12:44, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I'm still concerned the Bangladesh collaboration is given too much weight/focus in the article. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 22:39, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
  • The station organised a memorial on 20 May 2020 to commemorate the death of the Bengali journalist and freedom fighter No ned for the "the" before "Bengali"
 Y Done.
  • The radio station produced over 350 episodes by the end of August and gathered an international audience. Episodes of what? Original programmes? This is a bit misaligned.
 Y Fixed.
  • The relaxation of the lockdown led to fewer original programming being broadcast by the station and by September, it had begun producing original programming in the form of podcasts with monthly six to ten episodes
    • "Fewer original programmes" or "less original programming"
    • Add comma after "by the station" (CinS)
    • "Six to ten episodes a month"; "monthly" does not come before words like this in English
 Y Done.

Format and shows

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  • Sanyal who goes by the pseudo name RJ Bishakto Chochchori continues to host the music segment every Saturday from around midnight onwards. should be Sanyal, who goes by the pseudonym RJ Bishakto Chochchori, continues to host the music segment every Saturday from around midnight onwards. Note the addition of commas and "pseudonym" instead of "pseudo name"
    • Does he still do this? I see the reference for this is from November 2021.
Going by their facebook page, it still seems to be running, although there might have been a hiatus in late 2022 but that hasn't been covered by secondary sources from what I have seen. Tayi Arajakate Talk 12:44, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
  • The show has a focus on a variety of music from Brazil and Sanyal describes it as a place for "football, jazz, music and resistance". CinS add comma after "from Brazil", or better yet reword: The show focuses on a variety of music from Brazil, which Sanyal describes as a place for "football, jazz, music and resistance".
 Y Done.
  • the controversial Citizenship Amendment Act and the associated National Register of Citizens amid the pandemic This is the only passage I saw that is too close to a source; reword.
  • Darshan Mitra, a professor at the National Institute of Juridicial Science is Complete the appositive by adding a comma after "Science"
 Y Done.
  • The singer and oral historian Moushumi Bhowmik hosted a segment, which documented regional and cultural histories across Bengal including those from Purulia to Sylhet to the Sundarbans and occasionally featured interviews with various folk singers. Adjust comma placement: The singer and oral historian Moushumi Bhowmik hosted a segment which documented regional and cultural histories across Bengal, including those from Purulia to Sylhet to the Sundarbans, and occasionally featured interviews with various folk singers. The information on the segment is too important to stuff in an appositive.
 Y Done.
  • It also included shows related to health advice which feature medical professionals. "Featured", not "feature", for consistency.
 Y Done.
  • The station also broadcasts reading sessions through home recordings from participants including monologues, poetry and short story readings and had a children's segment. Do they still do this (check tense); also, adjust commas. The station also broadcast reading sessions through home recordings from participants, including monologues, poetry and short story readings, and had a children's segment.
 Y Done.
  • Recorded performances were crowdsourced from listener contributors, that were aired based on a specified criterion set by the station for the day's segment and included experiences of individuals isolated in their homes. This comma is in an odd spot. I think I'm struggling with the awkward wording in the middle segment the most! Something like The station solicited crowdsourced recordings, including experiences of individuals isolated in their homes, and aired them according to themed segments. perhaps?
I have changed the wording in the middle segment, see if this works. Tayi Arajakate Talk 13:56, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
  • "short stories readings" should be "short story readings"
 Y Done.
  • It also consists of episodes related to A bit awkward in context. Maybe "Other episodes relate to..."
 Y Done.
  • Audacity is not an archival platform for podcasts; it's an audio editor app. The link to The Audacity to Podcast seems to be unintended, too. (I can't find this in the source to check if that committed the error because it is paywalled.)
 Y Removed. It's not present in the source either, not sure where I had picked that from.

Spot checks

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  • 5: New York Times article giving 24 March as the date of a national lockdown order.  Y
  • 9: I assume this is used because it mentions a news roundup?  Y
  • 10: 5pm–2am broadcast hours; Sanyal show; Mitra. Is the name of the professor Darshan (as article) or Darshana (as source?)  Y
 Y Fixed. Darshana is the correct one, that was a typo.
  • 12: "diaries of isolation"?  Y
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