Talk:2012 Puerto Rico Republican presidential primary

Puerto Rico: Caucuses or Primary?

There is a disagreement about whether Puerto Rico is holding a primary or caucuses on March 18, 2012. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 18:43, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Caucuses There are numerous sources saying that it is caucuses being held in PR:

CNN: "18 Puerto Rico Republican caucuses"

Federal Election Commission, PRESIDENTIAL CAUCUS DATE heading: "Puerto Rico 3/18 (Republicans)"

NY Times: "March 18 Puerto Rico Caucuses"

NPR: "Puerto Rico about Format: Caucus/convention Delegates: 23"

There are only two sources saying primary:

Carribean Business refers to the event as both primary and caucus.

Daily Grito calls it a primary.

To me, it seems like major U.S. news organizations and the FEC itself outweigh a couple of minor websites, one of which is ambiguous anyway. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 18:52, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

• Caucuses Use what majority of sources use. Darkness Shines (talk) 16:39, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Puerto Rico Republican

The Green Papers 2012 Presidential Primaries, Caucuses, and Conventions calls it a primary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.50.32.207 (talk) 04:27, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

• Caucuses - I would tend to go with major news organisations. I would also note the previous article was "caucuses" - Puerto Rico Republican caucuses, 2008 Connolly15 (talk) 15:09, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Ballot set for Puerto Rico's Republican primary

Ballot set for Puerto Rico's Republican primary By : The Associated Press

The Republican Party of Puerto Rico says Buddy Roemer will be the first name on the ballot for the island's March 18 presidential primary. Roemer won the spot in a lottery overseen by election officials in the U.S. island territory. The second spot goes to Mitt Romney, followed by Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul and Fred Karger. Rick Santorum has the final spot.

Electoral Commissioner Jose Enrique Melendez announced the ballot placement Monday.

Puerto Ricans cannot vote in the general election but they can vote in primaries. About 400,000 people are expected to cast ballots in the Republican primary to chose 23 delegates, which are awarded proportionally unless one candidate gets 50 percent of the vote.

Ballot set for Puerto Rico's Republican primary — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.213.88.247 (talk) 03:36, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

• Comment I noticed the CNN link has changed, and now says primary. Since the other sources say caucuses, most importantly the Federal Election Committee link, I think it's tough to be sure, but I'm willing to let this stay as it is until we get closer to Puerto Rico's election day. It should be clarified by then. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 04:03, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Caucuses - Primary would be the proper term that would be used if Puerto Rico were a state and if Puerto Ricans in the island had the "right" to vote for the President and had a proper representation in the US Congress (such as Congressmen and Senators) which they do not. The fact that the island has a a small delegation which will represent Puerto Rico in the Republican Convention is more ceremonial then anything else and will have no real bearing in the Conventions outcome. Most of the publications which call the Caucuses a Primary, such as Caribbean Business News, represent the POV views of the factions in Puerto Rico who back-up the agenda of converting Puerto Rico into the 51st. State of the US. In other words, by using the word "Primary", it makes it seem as if Puerto Rico has the same influence in the outcome of the Conevntion as any of the other of the 50 States, which it does not. Tony the Marine (talk) 17:13, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
    • I think this is misleading. Lots of states have caucuses, while non-states (e.g. Democrats Abroad) sometimes have primaries. I'm not aware of any especially strong correlation between statehood and primaries or between non-statehood and caucuses. – hysteria18 (talk) 20:08, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
    • Agreed. Delegates are delegates, however they're selected, and Puerto Rico gets to pick 23 of them. They don't get any electoral votes, but they still get to help in nomination process. Besides, all that is original research, and couldn't be used to verify the information one way or the other. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 22:14, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

El Nuevo Dia News site calls it a primary. Reference: Republican pre-candidates heading to Puerto Rico — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.213.108.205 (talk) 03:06, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

It is important to remember that ALL states and territories have caucuses, also those that have primaries. But the primaries simply binds the delegates to a candidates and in some cases elects the delegates themselve. The caucuses then are about party building, just as the National Convention not is solely about nominating a presidentiel candidate, others things does happen. Jack Bornholm (talk) 09:27, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Roemer's color shading

I know that on most pages of results where candidates have dropped out they have some dark coloring around their names... currently Roemer does not have this. Maybe the poll results updater could do this for consistency. Stopde (talk) 01:35, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

I put his picture up, the reason is that he came in third, and Paul came in SIXTH. If we're going to have just the top four, then we shouldn't skip anybody.Ericl (talk) 16:06, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

That's fine -- when I wrote that, only Mitt & Rick's pictures were showing, and now the six pictures are showing, even though perhaps (just perhaps) the white surrounding his picture should be a gray shading -- which is the color used around people that have dropped out of the race. Stopde (talk) 22:49, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Gingrich's home state

Someone had put on Gingrich's home state as Virginia with a not beside it saying that he had been living their since 1999. Regardless of whether this is true or not, his home state is Georgia and I have edited to reflect that. Mspence835 (talk) 20:42, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Spanish to English language

Could anyone translate official results from Spanish to English election language? http://64.185.222.182/cee_events/PRIMARIAS_PARTIDO_REPUBLICANO_2012_36/NOCHE_DEL_EVENTO_55/default.html
What exactly does it mean?
NOMINACIÓN DIRECTA 69 (write-ins???)
EN BLANCO 1,453 (blank votes???)
PROTESTADAS Y NO ADJUDICADAS 1,022 (???)
RECUSADAS NO ADJUDICADAS 215 (???)

Bielsko (talk) 11:32, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

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